Newcastle United Thread - 2021/22

[eyalluvitt]

They fill their ground regularly watching shit. Good luck to them.

Would they if Old Scaffold was 3 miles away?

 

[decmancity]

There is another reason why reputation matters. That is how people you want to do business with perceive you. If potential sponsors, players, managers, financial backers etc etc think you are dodgy, they are much less likely to agree to any proposals you make. Pep, for example, needed reassurance from Khaldoon that we would see off UEFA. We don't know how possible replacements for Etihad view us. If they are not familiar with the ins and outs of the Pl, they might shy away. Henry Winter called Levy a shrewd negotiator. I beg to differ: people are wary of dealing with him. At least 6 managers said no to him when looking for Poch's successor. The Kane business simply confirmed the view that he was not to be trusted. It all comes back to harm you in the end.

There is zero evidence that it has impacted our ability to attract sponsors etc though. Each year we sign big commercial partnerships, we have the CFG which is going strength to strength and we sign world class players each summer.

I don't see anything wrong with Pep speaking to Khaldoon, the UEFA battle was before his time so it's reasonable to have the conversation.

 

[Coatigan]

The reports that the other 19 PL clubs objected to this takeover is disappointing from a city perspective. We have had to deal with nothing but the hateful eight and the despicable old top 4 objecting to our every effort involved in toppling them. To object to a bit of meaningful opposition from our north eastern neighbours has elements of hypocrisy which don’t rest easy with me. I suppose we didn’t want to stand out from the rest of the league and give them a stick to hit us with

I agree.

However, I expect this is more of a loose headline than a full picture. From the little that i've read at least. The questions to the PL from other clubs was on 'the structure of the consortium' of the body down as owners. Don't really know any detail, but it doesnt read like it was an objection to the principle of a takeover or even who was getting it, but a structure within the set ownership rules.

Think we will see this happen more often, I would think that any comments in which Khaldoon or any member of the City hierarchy mentiones anything to do with it, will be consistent with the comments they made about our own takeover and investment. They will be diplomatic, respectful of PL/UEFA and the rulemakers, but ultimately seemingly supportive of Newcastle ownership, with a hint that our own model is a good one. And there will be headlines that will claim behind the scenes objections to it which will look like hypocrisy on our part. There probably will be a real duality on some level. But more so, the media will be looking to paint a picture of Newcastle ownership as unwelcome, and we will inevitably get caught in the broadbrush.


That is just my comment on how I see that particular headline btw, I'd have no issue claimimg hypocrisy of our lot if I saw it that way.

 

[Mancity1980]

I agree.

However, I expect this is more of a loose headline than a full picture. From the little that i've read at least. The questions to the PL from other clubs was on 'the structure of the consortium' of the body down as owners. Don't really know any detail, but it doesnt read like it was an objection to the principle of a takeover or even who was getting it, but a structure within the set ownership rules.

Think we will see this happen more often, I would think that any comments in which Khaldoon or any member of the City hierarchy mentiones anything to do with it, will be consistent with the comments they made about our own takeover and investment. They will be diplomatic, respectful of PL/UEFA and the rulemakers, but ultimately seemingly supportive of Newcastle ownership, with a hint that our own model is a good one. And there will be headlines that will claim behind the scenes objections to it which will look like hypocrisy on our part. There probably will be a real duality on some level. But more so, the media will be looking to paint a picture of Newcastle ownership as unwelcome, and we will inevitably get caught in the broadbrush.


That is just my comment on how I see that particular headline btw, I'd have no issue claimimg hypocrisy of our lot if I saw it that way.

The media love to spin a story with broad strokes when they can however the clear use of the number 19 with reference to PL clubs is libellous if we are not included. As for future chairman or even manager comments very few come out statements like “it is a bad day for football” (Klopp), most are diplomatic or silent.

 

[Keeper!]

Total respect for sunderland fans, the fact that newcastle fans are saying sign the likes of mbappe, haaland & salah should keep them laughing a lot longer at the deluded geordies :)

Nothing wrong with dreaming, we were in the same position when the Sheik took over.

If you think the Saudi's are involved to make the numbers up think again.

They will do what it takes to make Newcastle a great club and a serious threat to the present top 4 , including ourselves.

It will take time, mistakes will be made along the way BUT they WILL BE A SERIOUS THREAT.

Competition will make us stronger and reduce complacency if we ever had it.

Good luck to the barcodes, it makes the Premier league even better.

 

[Stoned Rose]

No

Nothing wrong with dreaming, we were in the same position when the Sheik took over.

If you think the Saudi's are involved to make the numbers up think again.

They will do what it takes to make Newcastle a great club and a serious threat to the present top 4 , including ourselves.

It will take time, mistakes will be made along the way BUT they WILL BE A SERIOUS THREAT.

Competition will make us stronger and reduce complacency if we ever had it.

Good luck to the barcodes, it makes the Premier league even better.

They won't be a serious threat.

 

[ancoats]

The media love to spin a story with broad strokes when they can however the clear use of the number 19 with reference to PL clubs is libellous if we are not included. As for future chairman or even manager comments very few come out statements like “it is a bad day for football” (Klopp), most are diplomatic or silent.

i don't think manchester city would be one of the clubs moaning ? its just the media spinning shit because the premier league voted to agree for the take over of newcastle ? maybe its the 19 supporters clubs and not the club itself

am ok with it and good luck to them
let's see them take all the shit from the FFP to the bent officials doing them over game after game
manchester city have learnt to beat the system and its the hardest lesson when you have more money than the rest

 

[Keeper!]

They won't be a serious threat.

Rubbish, they will be a major force, it will take time but the Saudi's are serious players.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Rubbish, they will be a major force, it will take time but the Saudi's are serious players.

Not under the current FFP they won't son.

 

[waspish]

Rubbish, they will be a major force, it will take time but the Saudi's are serious players.

So 3 years Everton have spent what is it 400m? And Newcastle are at a lower level and once you spend that money if turnover isn’t spring 400m plus your in the shit with ffp like Everton were this summer just look who they got a loan and a 1.5m player! There are just to many rich owners in the league for them to make it in the next 5 years maybe 10 years if everything goes to plan.

 

[Keeper!]

Not under the current FFP they won't son.

Just maybe they will fight the farce of FFP, the Saudi's have a different mindset to our owners.

People like these don't get involved with a business without been fully aware of the consequences.

I personally hope they smash FFP out of the ball park, I despise any legislation that stops investment, it's a disgrace.

And having views that oppose that is very scouse like .

 

[Coatigan]

The media love to spin a story with broad strokes when they can however the clear use of the number 19 with reference to PL clubs is libellous if we are not included. As for future chairman or even manager comments very few come out statements like “it is a bad day for football” (Klopp), most are diplomatic or silent.

Im not debating the number. It is the use of 'objected to the takeover' that they were loose in. The article I read said that in the headline, but in the body the article said the clubs asked the PL to explain the structure of the consortium. I could be missing something or have not read one you are referring to, but that in itself is enough for me to think they are after a headline.

Agree otherwise.


In many ways, I'd be far more disappointed by hypocrisy of our fans than of the board, and I've not seen that happen which is good.

 

[dad1971]

My thoughts are Newcastle fans are proper bell ends. Years they have said how we are everything wrong with modern football. Oil club etc etc. Now they have rubbed the genie lamp and their morals seem to have vanished !
I say fuk them. Hope they get relegated and their owners turn out to be partners with Michael Knighton.

 

[Mancity1980]

i don't think manchester city would be one of the clubs moaning ? its just the media spinning shit because the premier league voted to agree for the take over of newcastle ? maybe its the 19 supporters clubs and not the club itself

am ok with it and good luck to them
let's see them take all the shit from the FFP to the bent officials doing them over game after game
manchester city have learnt to beat the system and its the hardest lesson when you have more money than the rest

I’m afraid we are:

Manchester United and Man City 'demand' Newcastle takeover emergency meeting

Newcastle United are heading into a new era after a £305m deal was struck up with Saudi-backed investors.

www.google.co.uk

I agree with the sentiment of the rest of your reply.

 

[blueparrot]

My thoughts are Newcastle fans are proper bell ends. Years they have said how we are everything wrong with modern football. Oil club etc etc. Now they have rubbed the genie lamp and their morals seem to have vanished !
I say fuk them. Hope they get relegated and their owners turn out to be partners with Michael Knighton.

Some vocal attention seeking ones have, but that could be said for any club. All the Newcastle fans I know, and its a fair few, have never had anything bad to say about us. So best of luck to them.I’d rather them fet some success than many other clubs .

 

[Mancity1980]

Im not debating the number. It is the use of 'objected to the takeover' that they were loose in. The article I read said that in the headline, but in the body the article said the clubs asked the PL to explain the structure of the consortium. I could be missing something or have not read one you are referring to, but that in itself is enough for me to think they are after a headline.

Agree otherwise.


In many ways, I'd be far more disappointed by hypocrisy of our fans than of the board, and I've not seen that happen which is good.

Manchester United and Man City 'demand' Newcastle takeover emergency meeting

Newcastle United are heading into a new era after a £305m deal was struck up with Saudi-backed investors.

www.google.co.uk

I am disappointed by the hypocrisy of some of our fans, however plenty seem to be saying good luck to the barcodes so on the whole that is good.

As regards our club, siding with the rags and calling for an emergency meeting is worst, I wish they wouldn’t do it.

 

[Coatigan]

Manchester United and Man City 'demand' Newcastle takeover emergency meeting

Newcastle United are heading into a new era after a £305m deal was struck up with Saudi-backed investors.

www.google.co.uk

I am disappointed by the hypocrisy of some of our fans, however plenty seem to be saying good luck to the barcodes so on the whole that is good.

As regards our club, siding with the rags and calling for an emergency meeting is worst, I wish they wouldn’t do it.

Not the one I read, but it expands its own take on it.

which makes me stand by what I said actually.

' a would-be meeting is not to derail the takeover, as such.

Indeed, the parties involved have already issued the green light in that respect'.

The clubs arent 'objecting'. they are looking for clarity. Which in a deal as complex, that involves tv coverage of the league abroad and owners that also own a nerwork that shows PL matches, isn't unexpected. There is an outcome of an arbitration case that has yet to be fully revealed.

They are making headlines and writing at length on what is a footnote, that is how I currently feel about it.

 

[bluemoon32]

Shame on our club if we're siding with the likes of Utd and Liverpool over Newcastle

 

[halfcenturyup]

Manchester United and Man City 'demand' Newcastle takeover emergency meeting

Newcastle United are heading into a new era after a £305m deal was struck up with Saudi-backed investors.

www.google.co.uk

I am disappointed by the hypocrisy of some of our fans, however plenty seem to be saying good luck to the barcodes so on the whole that is good.

As regards our club, siding with the rags and calling for an emergency meeting is worst, I wish they wouldn’t do it.

Bit of a nothing article really, based on the Guardian article. It says City are one of the clubs demanding a meeting with no source apart from the Guardian article which only says they "understand" the 19 clubs are united in opposition, again without a source. Means nothing.

On the other hand, a few mistakes have been made this year by the management. I hope this isn't another one.

 

[jrb]

1 poster posted City weren’t one of the clubs involved. Apparently that was reported. No links to any articles, though.

I honestly can’t see City being one of those clubs. After what the PL, the 3 Red Shirt clubs, and Spurs have done to City over last 10 years. I‘m inclined to believe City(and Abu Dhabi) are happy for the Saudis to come on-board as we now have a powerful ally, who‘s takeover of Newcastle was delayed and almost stopped by Liverpool, United, Arsenal, and Spurs.

If it‘s true City are siding with the Red Shirts and Spurs once again, especially after admitting they made a mistake in joining the Super League, I will be well and truly pissed off, like many other City fans will be.