Newcastle United Thread - 2021/22

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mrbelfry said:
Newcastle have been bland for 14 years but i do believe the club has a personality which they'll need to rediscover to create the united squad that they'll need. Make it a fun, exciting place to work with a coherent and consistent strategy and they will make progress. Every day with Bruce in charge though is a wasted day
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They don't need a united squad. They need a city or chelsea squad.
 
Most important is to get rid of Bruce and start getting some type of tactical ideas into place and get a manager playing to that "philosophy", which will be very rocky at first and also can go very bad at least until first transfer window as this current squad is not much better than what Bruce was able to get out of it, meaning staying just above relegation one.

will be interesting to see the type of players they start their investment in transfer market.

most likely is that they can only choose from top clubs bench/deadwood players and while those will be big upgrades still those are not the ind of players taking them to top4.

but I would like to see a manager like Conte given a chance.

I do hope they wont give inflated prices to our rivals for their deadwood. but its likely they will.

and FFP is still there, even if its dying and some other type of bullshit is about to be brought in by Uefa with luxury tax and other jokes.

i wonder what they make up to make the elite a closed shop as we have an official CL format change coming in from 2024 after they beat off the ESL idea for now at least.

Can totally see United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs going back to ESL idea if this Newcastle project really takes off quicker than it would be expected and they start to threaten the place of red fucks.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
the latter 2 would be good signings.
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Martial on a free or very cheap would be pretty appealing. I'd put quite a lot of stock in him improving a lot after leaving United like Daly Blind, Lukaku, Sanchez, Lingard and countless others.

He has all the technical ability and shown spells of the right mentality but obviously needs a change of scenery. With a good manager, a front 3 of Martial-Wilson-Saint Maximin would be pretty scary.
 
domalino said:
Martial on a free or very cheap would be pretty appealing. I'd put quite a lot of stock in him improving a lot after leaving United like Daly Blind, Lukaku, Sanchez, Lingard and countless others.

He has all the technical ability and shown spells of the right mentality but obviously needs a change of scenery. With a good manager, a front 3 of Martial-Wilson-Saint Maximin would be pretty scary.
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just think he has a poor attitude and he'd be the sort to go for the money rather than buy into the project. Just my feeling given he could contribute much more at the Rags if he could be arsed.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
just think he has a poor attitude and he'd be the sort to go for the money rather than buy into the project. Just my feeling given he could contribute much more at the Rags if he could be arsed.
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Does he have a bad attitude or is he just fed up at United? They've moved him around constantly, whenever he shows good form they find a way to bench him.

People said Lukaku's attitude was bad at United as well, it's a pretty common accusation thrown at unhappy players.

He's 25 and on the edge of the France squad, so the world cup would be all the motivation in the world.
 
domalino said:
Does he have a bad attitude or is he just fed up at United? They've moved him around constantly, whenever he shows good form they find a way to bench him.

People said Lukaku's attitude was bad at United as well, it's a pretty common accusation thrown at unhappy players.
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I guess we won't know till he moves, but it's a fair reasonable impression based on what he's shown thus far.
 
Newcastle will spend right up against the limits of PL FFP, I'm not sure if the PL's FFP is less stringent than the UEFA FFP that we also have to comply with. It's worth noting that we spend pretty much right up against the limits of FFP, or rather our ownership has shown an appetite for doing so when appropriate. We have significantly more commercial revenue and we have CL money, so we have the means to stay dominant as long as the ownership so desires.

Don't think Newcastle will catch up to us anytime soon in the FFP world, especially now that "cooked" commercial deals are under greater scrutiny.

However, the American-run clubs and penny-pincher Levy should all be very nervous, as that gap can be bridged in the next 5 years if the clubs continue to decline (Arsenal) or top talent ages out (Liverpool, Spurs). United is investing the first team, but not the infrastructure, showing a bread and circus mentality.

No surprise at the hysteria this takeover has brought out.
 
They need some talent in January to stay up and then get a manager like a Brendan Rogers who can manage big players and get the team playing good stuff.

Martial is a great shout above, players of that mold would improve them drastically.
 
hammocity said:
Ah, the Asian betting market conspiracy theory, doesn’t affect the Premier League one iota.
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...and you know this for a fact, how?

Remember Grobbelaar, Fashanu and Segers? And how long ago was that?

But you're "certain" that nothing like that has ever happened and that in the interim period that the "dodgy doers" haven't refined and developed their techniques.

Nothing to see here, move along, there's no chance of corruption in top flight English football. ;)
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
...and you know this for a fact, how?

Remember Grobbelaar, Fashanu and Segers? And how long ago was that?

But you're "certain" that nothing like that has ever happened and that in the interim period that the "dodgy doers" haven't refined and developed their techniques.

Nothing to see here, move along, there's no chance of corruption in top flight English football. ;)
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Because the digital algorithms detect any unusual activity, type of customer, frequency of bets, arbitrage patterns, etc. Anything like that is flagged.

You are going back to a time when the most sophisticated technology available to bookmakers was a telephone.

Don’t worry though, there’s a lot of people who share your views, mostly not a clue about multi million pound hi tech betting companies, you’re in good company.
 
For a fake outrage like this Newcastle takeover, the Toon Army (so the liberal left script goes) are required to respond with at least a tiny bit of moral indignation and perhaps consider taking their support elsewhere, presumably to Sunderland (though no one actually expects them to do so). When predictably the Geordies don't do anything of the sort, much contrived condemnation and disingenuous tut tutting follows in the media

For the liberal left media it is essential that the Toon army must be publicly shamed. Just like we shame the blokes down the betting office and at the race course (not to mention the Queen) over their lack of condemnation for Sheikh Maktoum, the human rights abusing oligarch who locks up his daughter, but is also the bloke who practically owns Newmarket and props up horse racing (except, of course, we don't shame them).

It's all a case of being seen to be outraged but not actually outraged, for calling for things to be done in the knowledge that nothing will be done. A time for pointing fingers at working class Newcastle United fans, in the knowledge that beIN Sports having been compensated, our government wholehearted supports the takeover, and all this liberal hand wringing is guff.

let's not forget Britain and America sent troops to Saudi Arabia 30 years ago to defend the country, more precisely defend ARAMCO, which when I first went there was called the Arabian-American Oil Company. We could've toppled the House of Saud on our way out, or at the very least brought about radical change.

But of course we didn't.

So all this hot air bullshit from the talking heads is a pile of hypocritical shite.
 
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Do our owners get on?
Any chance of some tactical transfer work and agreements in place not to target each other's players?
 
VinceYoungisaBLUE said:
They need some talent in January to stay up and then get a manager like a Brendan Rogers who can manage big players and get the team playing good stuff.

Martial is a great shout above, players of that mold would improve them drastically.
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Would be surprised if Rodgers wasn't a target - one of the best managers in the league, and isn't at a club in the CL. Pretty sure he would then go back and raid Leicester for 3 or 4 players as an instant upgrade on what's there at Newcastle.
 
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