Leazeslad said:
Even in the 80's selling our best players every year, we were in the best 6-8 supported clubs in the country, despite being in the top 10 once, and as I said we were the third best supported club in the country despite being in Division Two in 1984. I don't know where these myths come from, it's usually bourne out of jealousy, as when you divide success by attendances over the last 60 years, there really isn't a comparable club that I know of in world football. Our gates in that league are almost double what Leeds, with a catchment area double ours, have been getting no mention of them eh? So apart from 1991, what else can you say about our gates, two dodgy ones in the economic clutch of the very early 80's?
Newcastle and City should not criticise each other for dodgy gates. I thought the chant this weekend was ridiculous - save the abuse for
Chelsea, Leeds, Sunderland and others.
There are issues behind some of the average attendances since 1989 onwards (particularly for City as Maine Road's capacity during the period from 1992 to 2003 was severly restricted and, during the period 1992 to 1995 building work meant capacity for some games was as low as 20,000).
In good times Newcastle get enormous crowds, but in bad times their attendances do drop off at an alarming rate - 16,001 in 1980-81 (26th best in League, when City's was 33,587 - 4th best in League), 17,276 in 1981-82 (17th best in League, City's was 34,063 - 4th best again).
Analysis in 2002 showed that City's ultimate all-time average attendance position was 7th while Newcastle's was 6th. Ahead of us were Arsenal, Liverpool, Utd, Everton and Spurs. Since 2002 Arsenal, Utd, City & Newcastle's all-time averages will have increased, while the other clubs would probably have dropped a little.
I've just calculated City's all-time average attendance for the updated version of "Manchester A Football History" coming out at Christmas - the figure stands at 29,555 (based on every League game). According to Newcastle stats (so I don't know if they've used the same approach but it's the best we have) their all-time average stands at 30,315 - not much difference between the sides really, considering capacity restrictions and so on.