Next Labour Leader - Miliband Resigns

[masterwig]

It's a clear alternative. That's the biggest positive whether you like his policies or not.

But Britain is a country full of voters who'd rather have a polished pebble than a rough diamond. A risk averse nation fears strong principles and beliefs and will vote 9/10 for the safe middle ground.

The media will destroy him. Every gaff, every contradiction with things he said 25 years ago will be under the microscope. I can't see him even lasting to the next election if I'm honest.

 

[foxy]

I think that's the key point. It's no longer a choice between Tories and Tories-lite. It's a genuine choice between left and right.

Whether the electorate want a leftist Labour party remains to be seen but they will probably be facing Osborne in 5 years time and he could well be the Tories Gordon Brown, plus I suspect that Labour will win a lot of Scottish seats back.

Leftists getting excited over 59% of about 400k Labour supporters voting Corbyn. It has no relation to the electorate where 30m people voted.

 

[cookster]

It's a clear alternative. That's the biggest positive whether you like his policies or not.

But Britain is a country full of voters who'd rather have a polished pebble than a rough diamond. A risk averse nation fears strong principles and beliefs and will vote 9/10 for the safe middle ground.

The media will destroy him. Every gaff, every contradiction with things he said 25 years ago will be under the microscope. I can't see him even lasting to the next election if I'm honest.

Very good summary.

 

[foxy]

I' genuinely pleased for Corbyn though, though I don't agree with his beliefs, him and Tom Watson have beaten careerist red tories such as Burnham, Cooper, Stella Creasy.

 

[the god Gerry Gow]

Can you all you middle class wankers shut up.

Sorry you'll have to shout. I can't hear you over the sound of my champagne corks popping.

5 more years, 5 more years

 

[KenTheLandlord]

As with any election, you're actually trying to appeal to a very small number of people. There are those who, no matter what, will vote Labour, they will love Corbyn (and they will be the majority who just voted for him), there will be those who, no matter what, vote Tory (they'll hate Corbyn, but so what), there will be those who, no matter what, simply won't vote. And then there's the target group, people who occasionally vote and people who flip votes from party to party. By definition the vote flippers have no strong right or left views, hence why they don't have a party they associate themselves with. Far left policy like Corbyn's is highly unlikely to appeal to them. The occasional voters clearly don't have strong political feelings in general (if they can't be bothered to vote) so, again, far left policies are unlikely to appeal. Corbyn is exactly the wrong type of person to appeal to the people Labour need to appeal to in order to be electable. Who cares if he's loved by labour members, they'd have voted labour regardless of who won todays leadership election.

I doubt many would disagree with what you have said. i don't, however, for me that is exactly what is wrong with UK politics. Politics is not about what was and sticking with the old and tired. Tories stuck in Labour wards and their vote never counting, so they drift and vice versa. This fella has won his seat every time since 1983 and he has said people are sick of the way things are and people are sick of it. He may not change much or even the world and he may not get the chance but he is having a go and he is becoming more popular on the back of it. He will garner even more support when Camoron tries to wade in with whatever he has been accumulating.
So what if he talks with terrorist groups, they usually end up talking anyway, when the UK realises it needs something from them, mind you in the week the biggest arms conference in the world is taking place in London, the Tories and diet Tories do love a good war. At least he can look at every single dead and injured soldier's loved ones in the eye and know they would not have died or been injured if he talked and looked for solutions. Tony Bliar and Dave the Twat cannot, Dave supported Tony and his pack of lies, there is a lot of blood on their hands.
As has been stated elsewhere, now at least there is two party system and people can look at a real alternative rather than diet Tory and if that does not engage them, fair enough but at least he has had a go.

 

[KenTheLandlord]

It's a clear alternative. That's the biggest positive whether you like his policies or not.

But Britain is a country full of voters who'd rather have a polished pebble than a rough diamond. A risk averse nation fears strong principles and beliefs and will vote 9/10 for the safe middle ground.

The media will destroy him. Every gaff, every contradiction with things he said 25 years ago will be under the microscope. I can't see him even lasting to the next election if I'm honest.

They have been destroying him for 25 years, he is now the Leader of the Labour party, long may the cockwombles continue.

 

[mat]

It's a clear alternative. That's the biggest positive whether you like his policies or not.

But Britain is a country full of voters who'd rather have a polished pebble than a rough diamond. A risk averse nation fears strong principles and beliefs and will vote 9/10 for the safe middle ground.

The media will destroy him. Every gaff, every contradiction with things he said 25 years ago will be under the microscope. I can't see him even lasting to the next election if I'm honest.

Indeed.

His attack on the media in his speech will see to that. But they do have their own vested interests to protect and a powerful opponent is there for them to try and take him out. Already kicking off about the lack of female leaders. Strange they didn't say that when Cameron appointed only one in his first cabinet.

 

[mat]

Gerry Adams could become shadow home secretary.

Enjoying your wumming.

 

[malg]

It's a clear alternative. That's the biggest positive whether you like his policies or not.

But Britain is a country full of voters who'd rather have a polished pebble than a rough diamond. A risk averse nation fears strong principles and beliefs and will vote 9/10 for the safe middle ground.

The media will destroy him. Every gaff, every contradiction with things he said 25 years ago will be under the microscope. I can't see him even lasting to the next election if I'm honest.

Very much so, we have become a risk averse society. Mind you, only time will tell with Corbyn. I think his media advisors have their work cut out for them. I heard a report on the radio this morning and they said the race was between Andy Burnham and 'left winger' Jeremy Corbyn. That was from the BBC. I'm no tree hugging conspiracy theorist, but that is rank bad reporting.