Next season 25/26

Fordyboy46 said:
How Pep turns us into a winning machine again next season heaven only knows. Sadly the system we play has become null and void, teams can play it quite easily now and we have nothing left up our sleeves. I've said it before that I wouldn't be surprised if Pep isn't managing us next season
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I'll be surprised (shocked even) if he's still here to be honest.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
The squad is full of bench type players for me.

I look at the names and think of a Premier League and Champions League winning potential side I see this.



Ederson

X. X. Gvardial. X


Rodri


X. X


X. Haaland. X

Maybe Foden gets in if he refinds form which I’m not convinced on and Ederson may be off anyway.

The rest are squad quality but not top level players.

I think we need at least 4/5 new players with top quality and top level experience. They need hunger, pace, stamina and flair.

We can then plug the remaining gaps with squad players.

That will cost £400m minimum, possibly more so it could take 3 seasons to get it looking the right way.

This current squad is not good enough and we will struggle to get back to 2023 levels. This is not a dip, this is the start of a decline unless we address it quickly.
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I would argue for Dias and that some players we have could end up being clear first team ones, Mahmoush and Bobb spring to mind.

But RB/ LB - Gvardiol needs to be in the middle.

2 CM’s of starting quality

1 Winger (probably the most flex in here given our squad and could wait and see how certain players perform)

So I’d go 4 starters about £250-300 million

We probably have the head room for FFP and the wages if certain players go.

So doable, but the recruitment has to be spot on.
 
Silva2021 said:
I would argue for Dias and that some players we have could end up being clear first team ones, Mahmoush and Bobb spring to mind.

But RB/ LB - Gvardiol needs to be in the middle.

2 CM’s of starting quality

1 Winger (probably the most flex in here given our squad and could wait and see how certain players perform)

So I’d go 4 starters about £250-300 million

We probably have the head room for FFP and the wages if certain players go.

So doable, but the recruitment has to be spot on.
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But who would actually want to come other than for big money? We're not the big attraction fans think we are.
We'll pribably end up with another bunch of overpriced, overpaid, mixture of Kalvins and Fodens.
 
It’s going to be just as difficult as this or harder. We need to shift too many players & we need at least 6 first team players of elite level in with likely no champs league.

To make it worse everybody knows it’s pep’s last season. We are just delaying the inevitable.

We need a new start and it will take 2/3 years to sort out.

The club got arrogant & lazy & we are where we are because of it sadly
 
Football is not rigid, well it was until chavs and city joined the elite.

I know people are hurting but we have no divine right to stay no 1.

The squad isn’t in a great shape for many reasons. The blame game is pointless. It will take as long as it takes.

The club has not done much wrong these past 15 seasons. The level achieved is not sustainable without rocky patches.

Due to the cost of players and the amount we need to shift, realistically probably 3/4 good transfers windows. Football is funny tho, 3 top singings and a fit squad could see us challenge again.

Overall, we have had an unbelievable run. It has come to an end, accept it and give pep and co time to put it right.
 
City cannot do a rebuild if the players you buy for the rebuild are left rotting on the bench.
Why spend all that money on an academy, if you don't intend to use them in the main team?
The tactics are infuriating slow. 'Tiki-taka' dominated once, it doesn't anymore. That's obvious.

The Premier League is fast, counter-attacking and adapatable and it's showing tiki-taka style up.
"Give it to Haaland" doesn't work because he's doing nothing with it when he finally gets it. Yet we have Marmoush, O'Reilly, Savinho (Who should be playing on the left, not the right) McAtee, Khusanov, Gonzales, Bobb etc, all champing at the bit and they're being partially utilised over the Old Guard who have been struggling for, let's be honest, the past two years.

I could take another transitional season of finishing trophyless, competing for a Champions League place with the new bloods, over what was offered this season. No more Tiki-taka, no more moving the ball forward on a counter, stopping, passing back then wing to wing, no more substituions on the 85th minute. We can't continue doing the exact same things we did this season. Everything needs a reset, we need to be patient to see if the changes work. If they don't at least we tried, but i'd rather see us attempt changes than waste yet another season with the same mediocre performances and lacklustre effort.
 
wolviedinho said:
Football is not rigid, well it was until chavs and city joined the elite.

I know people are hurting but we have no divine right to stay no 1.

The squad isn’t in a great shape for many reasons. The blame game is pointless. It will take as long as it takes.

The club has not done much wrong these past 15 seasons. The level achieved is not sustainable without rocky patches.

Due to the cost of players and the amount we need to shift, realistically probably 3/4 good transfers windows. Football is funny tho, 3 top singings and a fit squad could see us challenge again.

Overall, we have had an unbelievable run. It has come to an end, accept it and give pep and co time to put it right.
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The question is whether Pep is the right man to turn it around, with one year left on his contract and a disaster season from him personally making a catalogue of mistakes in team selections and tactical set up.
 
Lavinda Past said:
But who would actually want to come other than for big money? We're not the big attraction fans think we are.
We'll pribably end up with another bunch of overpriced, overpaid, mixture of Kalvins and Fodens.
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With world class academy ,infra and specially top class manager , lot of players would dream of playing city . Stop being so pitiful of our self , we are top club and dream for lot of youngsters.
 
Lavinda Past said:
But who would actually want to come other than for big money? We're not the big attraction fans think we are.
We'll pribably end up with another bunch of overpriced, overpaid, mixture of Kalvins and Fodens.
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I think you undersell, Pep, very history of winning etc.

Players will have seen City as a big attraction and it does not change over 1 season.

The owners will still clearly have the ambition and our wage structure is also pretty good.

Whilst not for me (I really wanted to win yesterday!!), the top 5 is more important to the club/ potential players than a FA Cup win.

Tuesday is huge for the club
 
Been saying it all season and it's not just aimed at City.

Possession at all costs, passing to death the opposition football is dead in the water.

The league has changed this season. Hence why we are seeing (no disrespect) smaller teams like Forest. Bournemouth, Brentford exceed expectations. Players are getting more athletic. Look at Palace yesterday. Their players looked full of energy in the 80th minute as they did in the 10th.

We need a total rethink on transfers, tactics and personnel.

Stop buying tier 2 level players like Doku, Savinho, Gonzalez, Nunes,

We need 4 or 5 elite level players. Established internationals to compete again.

If we can't afford that then disect the playing style.

I feel we are going to experience another "transistion" season next season. And the same arguments on here will continue.
 
Fordyboy46 said:
How Pep turns us into a winning machine again next season heaven only knows. Sadly the system we play has become null and void, teams can play it quite easily now and we have nothing left up our sleeves. I've said it before that I wouldn't be surprised if Pep isn't managing us next season
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I actually think he'd be gone (his choice or the clubs) if it wasn't for the CWC. That would mean either we find a manager before it with no time to do anything or after it with the same issue.

I'm hoping on the first team coaches does the honourable thing instead, as I really think he needs someone to challenge him. He previously had the likes of Arteta and Maresca who've gone on to be managers. I know Lillo was a manager but a bit of a maverick and now seems happy to sit out his retirement on the bench.

Taggart was in charge for a long time but had succession of assistants who left to be (unsuccessful) managers but clearly backed themselves to be able to do the job and therefore would have been challenging him. We've got a load of Phil Neals
 
Blue Since 76 said:
I actually think he'd be gone (his choice or the clubs) if it wasn't for the CWC. That would mean either we find a manager before it with no time to do anything or after it with the same issue.

I'm hoping on the first team coaches does the honourable thing instead, as I really think he needs someone to challenge him. He previously had the likes of Arteta and Maresca who've gone on to be managers. I know Lillo was a manager but a bit of a maverick and now seems happy to sit out his retirement on the bench.

Taggart was in charge for a long time but had succession of assistants who left to be (unsuccessful) managers but clearly backed themselves to be able to do the job and therefore would have been challenging him. We've got a load of Phil Neals
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Agreed that too many of Pep's men have left in recent seasons and not been replaced. Torrent was another who was constantly giving advice, Lillo looks half dead and seemingly looking like he doesn't give a shit sat next to Pep
 
The club has bought in a lot of players in Jan, will get rid of a few of the old boys this summer, so no more excuses about age etc. Hopefully Pep can get them playing good exciting football again but personally I feel he has to adapt again to do that. Current style is both boring an ineffective.
Having wingers on their correct sides might be one way, otherwise Haaland is redundant
 
callumcity said:
yeah it is my bad I forgot, even worse really
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My concern is if the rebuild takes 2-3 years how can it be done by a manager with only 2 years left.
Personally I feel, if he has the fight and desire, Pep needs to extend beyond 2 years and rebuild.
Edit: and get a number 2 in who is innovative and not a yes man
 
callumcity said:
The question is whether Pep is the right man to turn it around, with one year left on his contract and a disaster season from him personally making a catalogue of mistakes in team selections and tactical set up.
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Well then you are asking the wrong question.

His decisions questionable they maybe is also a sign that he can’t get it right all the time. What he has brought to city is outrageous.

Teams rise and fall. A lot of people will be made to look very foolish again once he puts it right.

I can’t take the get pep out brigade seriously at all, sorry.
 
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