Nhs

[BoyBlue_1985]

Try going to a bupa hospital in the middle of the night with a sick child or a broken arm.

You can stand and shout outside all you like but you will end up in an NHS hospital that night.

For the last friggin time i was not arguing that you shouldn't if you have private care

I know your stance but I was in a rush and yours seemed the most appropriate post to quote for the numpties who want to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Oh right. I thought everyone was getting the wrong idea about what i was saying

 

[Bill Walker]

If so anyone know where is good for knee cartilage

Try one of these

haha

 

[bgblue]

If so anyone know where is good for knee cartilage

Try one of these

haha

That made me smile ;)

 

[Bill Walker]

Try one of these

haha

That made me smile ;)

me too, Im a simple fecker I like pictures :)

used to eat them when I was single, lip smackin good..

 

[wayne71]

Why not get it done on bupa or were you daft enough to tell them about it before you joined?

I think they would check all his medical records first don't you.

No they hate the idea of making money so pre existing medical conditions are fixed on entry

They don't have any right to access your medical records. You fill a form in and declare what you want.

 

[The Flash]

I think they would check all his medical records first don't you.

No they hate the idea of making money so pre existing medical conditions are fixed on entry

They don't have any right to access your medical records. You fill a form in and declare what you want.

However, if they suspect the condition is pre-existing, or that you have failed to disclose a medical condition on your application, they will advise you that in order to confirm cover, they will need to request info from your GP. They will send a claim form to you which asks you to sign an Access To Medical Info letter for DPA purposes and then you have to pass on the form to your GP to complete. This will include a question about the date you first presented your symptoms to the GP.

If this date is prior to the policy start date, the claim will be declined. If you failed to disclosed the condition on the application form, your policy will be cancelled as it was obtained fraudulently.

If you fail to return the claim form, they won't cover you and you'll be liable for the costs.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

But people with private health care still pay taxes and NI

That's so that when they get something serious like cancer and discover BUPA won't treat beyond first treatment they have a fall back to which they are entitled.

Is cancer treatment really not covered by BUPA?

Not unless you pay their extra sky high cancer treatment premiums that are not part of the standard package.<br /><br />-- Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:02 pm --<br /><br />

But people with private health care still pay taxes and NI

That's so that when they get something serious like cancer and discover BUPA won't treat beyond first treatment they have a fall back to which they are entitled.

Is cancer treatment really not covered by BUPA?

Not unless you pay their extra sky high cancer treatment premiums that are not part of the standard package.

Anyway BUPA is great.
See
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348322/Bupa-patient-strangled-wheelchair-belt-basic-failings-staff.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... staff.html</a>

couldn't ask for more.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Served me well..

Think yourself lucky we have it you miserable gets!

 

[Pieblue]

For the last friggin time i was not arguing that you shouldn't if you have private care

I know your stance but I was in a rush and yours seemed the most appropriate post to quote for the numpties who want to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Private healthcare is NOT set up for emergency treatment. Never has been.

I know of only one or two private hospitals that has an emergency walk-in centre.

You are right and why not? Surprise surprise there's no fucking profit in it so they dont want to be involved. Same as if you go to your nice private hospital for your nice private op and they fuck your life up by leaving you in a coma for the rest of your life or needing Intensive care due to there fuck up. What do they do, do they keep you in your nice private bed in your nice private hospital with a nice private intensive care team giving you 24 hour care? Do they fuck!! they ship you off to the nearest NHS hospital and forget all about you, just ask anyone who works on the NHS how often this happens.

 

[Rascal]

Our NHS is a wonderful organisation that does what it says, it delivers the very best care it can as and where it is needed.

I have over the last 10 years become very reliant on the NHS, I have spent 50 nights asleep there this year already as well as visiting every week for one thing or another.

What bothers me is the reforms of the NHS, they let in private providers, Serco a private compant run an NHS hospital in Cambridge, Serco have to make a profit and i dont believe anyone should profit from people being unwell.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Our NHS is a wonderful organisation that does what it says, it delivers the very best care it can as and where it is needed.

I have over the last 10 years become very reliant on the NHS, I have spent 50 nights asleep there this year already as well as visiting every week for one thing or another.

What bothers me is the reforms of the NHS, they let in private providers, Serco a private compant run an NHS hospital in Cambridge, Serco have to make a profit and i dont believe anyone should profit from people being unwell.

I know that one mate its the one in my hometown of Huntingdon. The options were private run or shut down, it was a shame but shutting down would of killed of Addenbrooks in Cambridge due to amount of patients

 

[metalblue]

No they hate the idea of making money so pre existing medical conditions are fixed on entry

They don't have any right to access your medical records. You fill a form in and declare what you want.

However, if they suspect the condition is pre-existing, or that you have failed to disclose a medical condition on your application, they will advise you that in order to confirm cover, they will need to request info from your GP. They will send a claim form to you which asks you to sign an Access To Medical Info letter for DPA purposes and then you have to pass on the form to your GP to complete. This will include a question about the date you first presented your symptoms to the GP.

If this date is prior to the policy start date, the claim will be declined. If you failed to disclosed the condition on the application form, your policy will be cancelled as it was obtained fraudulently.

If you fail to return the claim form, they won't cover you and you'll be liable for the costs.

If it's a proper corporate scheme it will likely cover pre-existing conditions it's the "personal" type ones that don't tend to. It will be clearly stated on the form you fill in when enrolling.

 

[stonerblue]

Our NHS is a wonderful organisation that does what it says, it delivers the very best care it can as and where it is needed.

I have over the last 10 years become very reliant on the NHS, I have spent 50 nights asleep there this year already as well as visiting every week for one thing or another.

What bothers me is the reforms of the NHS, they let in private providers, Serco a private compant run an NHS hospital in Cambridge, Serco have to make a profit and i dont believe anyone should profit from people being unwell.

I know that one mate its the one in my hometown of Huntingdon. The options were private run or shut down, it was a shame but shutting down would of killed of Addenbrooks in Cambridge due to amount of patients

Or build a new state run hospital. Maybe use a few quid from the olympics pot?

 

[yerwot?]

the nhs is dying from corporate poisoning, namely big pharma, staff agencies, pfi, but mainly by it's own corrupt management, putrid even by english standards

 

[stonerblue]

the nhs is dying from corporate poisoning, namely big pharma, staff agencies, pfi, but mainly by it's own corrupt management, putrid even by english standards

My town has a brand new shiny medical centre. I walked in today at 4pm and there was one person there, the receptionist. I don't know one person who's been treated there and no, they didn't have a walk-in facility.

 

[The Flash]

They don't have any right to access your medical records. You fill a form in and declare what you want.

However, if they suspect the condition is pre-existing, or that you have failed to disclose a medical condition on your application, they will advise you that in order to confirm cover, they will need to request info from your GP. They will send a claim form to you which asks you to sign an Access To Medical Info letter for DPA purposes and then you have to pass on the form to your GP to complete. This will include a question about the date you first presented your symptoms to the GP.

If this date is prior to the policy start date, the claim will be declined. If you failed to disclosed the condition on the application form, your policy will be cancelled as it was obtained fraudulently.

If you fail to return the claim form, they won't cover you and you'll be liable for the costs.

If it's a proper corporate scheme it will likely cover pre-existing conditions it's the "personal" type ones that don't tend to. It will be clearly stated on the form you fill in when enrolling.

It does depend on the underwriting. There's only MHD (medical history disregarded) where you won't be asked to prove its not pre existing.

 

[Stuart]

Or build a new state run hospital. Maybe use a few quid from the olympics pot?

<a class="postlink" href="http://ethicsgirls.com/olympics/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://ethicsgirls.com/olympics/</a>

 

[Rascal]

Our NHS is a wonderful organisation that does what it says, it delivers the very best care it can as and where it is needed.

I have over the last 10 years become very reliant on the NHS, I have spent 50 nights asleep there this year already as well as visiting every week for one thing or another.

What bothers me is the reforms of the NHS, they let in private providers, Serco a private compant run an NHS hospital in Cambridge, Serco have to make a profit and i dont believe anyone should profit from people being unwell.

I know that one mate its the one in my hometown of Huntingdon. The options were private run or shut down, it was a shame but shutting down would of killed of Addenbrooks in Cambridge due to amount of patients

This is where Lansley has failed, he does not get that people want a local hospital for there immediate needs. He should have concentrated on the need to specialise in large areas instead.

My ward i visit is the only one in Manchester, it also caters for people from as far away as Kendal, Leek and Skipton. This is due to medical advances not lack of care, although i believe the ward could be better funded and is under threat of closure as dermatology is not considered mainstream anymore.

The only way i can see a private company making a profit from a hospital is if they cut costs, usually that means less front line staff, less provision of services and lower wages as the sector they compete offers more than them.

It will probably equate to the better doctors and nurses moving to other NHS hospitals and people of Huntingdon getting a service yes, but a poorer one in my opinon.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The NHS is one of the best things about this country.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

The NHS is one of the best things about this country.

Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner.