Clevers
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tidyman said:
They had a special conference that overwhelmingly agreed the deal.
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Nick Clegg
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They had a special conference that overwhelmingly agreed the deal.
Clevers said:tidyman said:The only way I can see the LibDems even beginning to be taken seriously again is for Clegg, Alexander, Cable and all the others who put their 15 minutes above what the party stood for, to resign from the party.
Incidentally, is there a record of who exactly within the party hierarchy, voted to form the coalition? I'm assuming there was some sort of vote. Is there a public record of who was for and who against?
Or even who was involved in the decision making?
They had a special conference that overwhelmingly agreed the deal.
Do you mean the MP's or the members?
I know it took a few days but I'd be surprised if there was enough time to sort out a conference for the members. Plus I'd imagine it would have got published a bit more if that had happened.
Clevers
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tidyman said:Clevers said:tidyman said:The only way I can see the LibDems even beginning to be taken seriously again is for Clegg, Alexander, Cable and all the others who put their 15 minutes above what the party stood for, to resign from the party.
Incidentally, is there a record of who exactly within the party hierarchy, voted to form the coalition? I'm assuming there was some sort of vote. Is there a public record of who was for and who against?
Or even who was involved in the decision making?
They had a special conference that overwhelmingly agreed the deal.
Do you mean the MP's or the members?
I know it took a few days but I'd be surprised if there was enough time to sort out a conference for the members. Plus I'd imagine it would have got published a bit more if that had happened.
1500 members at a conference in Birmingham. I presume they were delegated by local parties. About 50 voted against the proposals.
http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-...m-conservative-coalition-agreement-19561.html
Clevers said:tidyman said:Clevers said:They had a special conference that overwhelmingly agreed the deal.
Do you mean the MP's or the members?
I know it took a few days but I'd be surprised if there was enough time to sort out a conference for the members. Plus I'd imagine it would have got published a bit more if that had happened.
1500 members at a conference in Birmingham. I presume they were delegated by local parties. About 50 voted against the proposals.
http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-...m-conservative-coalition-agreement-19561.html
Go back to your constituencies and prepare for power. No, we really mean it this time. Honestly we do. Yes, OK it will destroy the party, but it's power and shit. Wicked!
Clevers
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Henkeman said:Clevers said:tidyman said:Do you mean the MP's or the members?
I know it took a few days but I'd be surprised if there was enough time to sort out a conference for the members. Plus I'd imagine it would have got published a bit more if that had happened.
1500 members at a conference in Birmingham. I presume they were delegated by local parties. About 50 voted against the proposals.
http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-...m-conservative-coalition-agreement-19561.html
Go back to your constituencies and prepare for power. No, we really mean it this time. Honestly we do. Yes, OK it will destroy the party, but it's power and shit. Wicked!
I think they were damned whatever they did.
Clevers said:Henkeman said:Clevers said:1500 members at a conference in Birmingham. I presume they were delegated by local parties. About 50 voted against the proposals.
http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-...m-conservative-coalition-agreement-19561.html
Go back to your constituencies and prepare for power. No, we really mean it this time. Honestly we do. Yes, OK it will destroy the party, but it's power and shit. Wicked!
I think they were damned whatever they did.
Yes I do too. Refusing coalition would have caused paralysis and likely another election in short order. They would likely have been blamed for that, and the public hate elections and would probably have punished them. They did do the right thing, for the country as much as anything, however it has turned out for them.
Chancy Termites
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He's history in Lib Dem terms but to repeat what I said in the UKIP thread, I reckon he's a shoe-in for the UK's next EU commissioner.
I do feel a little sorry for him. His pro-EU stance was taken apart by Nigel Farage in those debates but I respect him for having the guts to speak out for what he believed in, albeit the reason for his downfall. Cameron and Miliband on the other hand shat their pants and hid behind the sofa at the suggestion of entering the debates, which makes me personally despise them all the more.
I guess the smart money's on Tim Farron as next Lib Dem leader, if only because he's almost certain to retain his seat at the next election and few of his colleagues can say that.
I do feel a little sorry for him. His pro-EU stance was taken apart by Nigel Farage in those debates but I respect him for having the guts to speak out for what he believed in, albeit the reason for his downfall. Cameron and Miliband on the other hand shat their pants and hid behind the sofa at the suggestion of entering the debates, which makes me personally despise them all the more.
I guess the smart money's on Tim Farron as next Lib Dem leader, if only because he's almost certain to retain his seat at the next election and few of his colleagues can say that.
Chancy Termites said:I do feel a little sorry for him.
You'd be less than human not to feel for him and note his clear distress.
agree with that, good point about him having the spirit to stand up for his principles. Feel for him because he's just in a hard place and has lost his kudos of the protest vote by not jumping out of bed with the Tories a some time ago.!Chancy Termites said:He's history in Lib Dem terms but to repeat what I said in the UKIP thread, I reckon he's a shoe-in for the UK's next EU commissioner.
I do feel a little sorry for him. His pro-EU stance was taken apart by Nigel Farage in those debates but I respect him for having the guts to speak out for what he believed in, albeit the reason for his downfall. Cameron and Miliband on the other hand shat their pants and hid behind the sofa at the suggestion of entering the debates, which makes me personally despise them all the more.
I guess the smart money's on Tim Farron as next Lib Dem leader, if only because he's almost certain to retain his seat at the next election and few of his colleagues can say that.
nijinsky's fetlocks
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Henkeman said:Chancy Termites said:I do feel a little sorry for him.
You'd be less than human not to feel for him and note his clear distress.
On the level of a fellow human being who is suffering, undoubtedly compassion is in order, but as a duplicitous opportunist bastard who has consigned his party to the electoral wilderness and rendered them an unelectable laughing stock for the foreseeable future for a brief scintilla of power that he never really had anyway, you could argue that what comes around the corridors of Westminster goes around them too.