Not sure about that. Quite a few Labour Unionists in Scotland are deserting Labour for the Lib Dems and Tories, the latest poll indicating that the Tories are making a comeback and could vary between 1 loss and 1 gain, with the Lib Dems possibly having 1 or 2 gains. Labour is heading for defeat and back down to 1 seat as per 2015.The Tories will lose about 6 seats. The Labour all but one. I would expect the SNP to increase their seats. If they do then we have spoken. If they don't it will be portrayed as a defeat. Sums up unionists, they lose and claim by not getting utterly slaughtered, they actually won.
Time will tell.
It's all to play for. I agree Labour are extinct, still think the Tories are going to lose a few. Libdems may benefit off tactical voting to keep Tories out.Not sure about that. Quite a few Labour Unionists in Scotland are deserting Labour for the Lib Dems and Tories, the latest poll indicating that the Tories are making a comeback and could vary between 1 loss and 1 gain, with the Lib Dems possibly having 1 or 2 gains. Labour is heading for defeat and back down to 1 seat as per 2015.
Not sure about that. Quite a few Labour Unionists in Scotland are deserting Labour for the Lib Dems and Tories, the latest poll indicating that the Tories are making a comeback and could vary between 1 loss and 1 gain, with the Lib Dems possibly having 1 or 2 gains. Labour is heading for defeat and back down to 1 seat as per 2015.
Not so much Hollyrood but Indyref. Back to the point from earlier. Not everyone that votes for SNP in an election will vote for independence in a referendum. Most will, some wont.Im getting a bit lost, how would the majority be more significant in this election (a Westminster GE), as opposed to say the next Hollyrood election or indyref? sorry, if i missed your point
Its surely a hard core of Brexit supporters that have coalesced round the utterly useless Scottish tory party. I cant see it translating into many seats though if any.Yep, and this is what i struggle to get. Scottish tories have literally done absolutely nothing, other than make up numbers and toe the party line. Why would anyone back them.
in 2017, i could understand it, labour were useless with kezia openly pushing tactical voting tory to stick it to the snp, with lib dems not credible right across the uk, they managed to champion themselves as the only likely unionist party to hold the snp back, and with ruth showing signs of a backbone, managed to convince people she'd stand up to boris and hard right tories when push came to shove between scotland's interests and their own agenda. But since then, they've been non-existent, with ruth resigning over the direction it is all going (in part, allegedly).
Yet, the polls still suggest people will back them. Ok might not translate into more than 10-15 seats, but as a percentage, its 25-30%.
Which to me says people will rather accept a right wing tory government led by even someone as dangerous as Boris, that will not bother with Scotland's (or n.i's) importance to the union, and brexit too, over independence and leaving the UK.
Which is why i made the point earlier, 10 or more tory seats, to me, is a sign Scotland is not ready to pursue independence again this soon.
Yes and it’s the English who will be paying for it, the sooner the jocks get independence the betterI'm a convert. I'll vote SNP and for independence despite being English and a previous no voter.
The SNP have now proved themselves competent and like it or not Boris Johnson couldn't care less about Scotland. Public services are high in the SNP agenda and that's good enough for me.
I'm a convert. I'll vote SNP and for independence despite being English and a previous no voter.
The SNP have now proved themselves competent and like it or not Boris Johnson couldn't care less about Scotland. Public services are high in the SNP agenda and that's good enough for me.
Crazy things like this happen in polls. Remember some supporters (about 2%) of the Brexit Party don't want to leave the EU. Crazy though it seems polls picked up this during the European elections.Not so much Hollyrood but Indyref. Back to the point from earlier. Not everyone that votes for SNP in an election will vote for independence in a referendum. Most will, some wont.
There are a sector that will vote SNP because they believe
not because they support independence.
- they represent Scotlands best interests in Westminster (better than any other party would)
- they are competent politically and will form a better government in Scotland than the other parties
Lol, you should watch Sturgeon’s interview with Andrew Neill. Absolutely takes her apart.I'm a convert. I'll vote SNP and for independence despite being English and a previous no voter.
The SNP have now proved themselves competent and like it or not Boris Johnson couldn't care less about Scotland. Public services are high in the SNP agenda and that's good enough for me.