Nicolas Otamendi - 2016/17 performances

[Dax777]

Who we talking about here? Tampons?

He that spots the great great beard :)


Not very good at this game.

 

[Dax777]

Nonetheless, Pep is not at all happy with Otter's rash decisions - diving in and/or making reckless challenges when unnecessary. He's got to cut that out of his game.

I don't disagree. He has to cut it down. But he shouldn't cut it out. That's part of what makes him good. I'm much more concerned when he goes chasing balls way out of his position. The rash slides I can live with. Lord know been living with it at with Komps for years.

 

[Terra Passenger]

IThe rash slides I can live with

But Pep cannot, and rightly so.

And +1 for pointing out Kompany's propensity for rash challenges - you can bet that Pep will insist that Kompany cut that out of his game.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

+1

Otters just needs to maintain position and not dive in or go for a risky challenge. Pep has told him as much. And yet, he continues to play this risky style.

Talented enough to be a great defender. But too risk prone currently to start for us if Kompany and Stones are fit.

Thing is he seemed to rein it in for a little while at the start of the season having dived in and had a bollocking very early on. It all resurfaced in the first half at Celtic Park where quite a few players seemed to revert back to the way they played under Pellegrini. people were diving in unnecessarily all over the place and leaving us exposed. Not sure that defensively we have really recovered our composure since that night.

 

[teddykgb]

I find it annoying when folks use the negative in O E player's game to justify why he sucks but ignore all the positives.

As of right now, if a get rid list was instituted, the only defender who'd still be around by the time we get to Ota's name is Stones. And that's coz he is young and just got here. Everyone else would be long gone before Ota considerations come up.

Is he rash and goes down too early sometimes? Absolutely! Is that the totality of his game? Absolutely not.

Every player on our squad has some shit they do I can't stand

Aguero's overdribbling
Silva's soft shooting
DeBryune's unforced errors
Gundogan's sideways too often
Sane's press
Dihno's fouling and collections of yellow card. Not to mention the recent rash of bad passes.
Sterling's ball control
Stones one vone defending
Zab's defending period.
Kolarov's well being Kolarov.
Nando's hiding from a pass
Navas's cross
Kompany's rashness, not to mention his injury record.
Kelechi's right foot


Frankly the only player I don't have anything substantial that bugs me about him is Nolito. But I don't base my conclusion on how good each and every one of these players are simply on just what they don't do well. But rather on the totality of their impact...

And on that, Otamendi is and has been City's best defender since he got here. Nothing has changed since I made this claim over a year ago to derision.

He oscillates between great and potentially awful. I get that. But as of now, no one on defense is even that close. Maybe Sagna when healthy and in good form. But no one else.

Not a matter for this thread, but your list is probably why we've "underperformed" for the last few seasons under some good managers and even under the greatest manager in the world more recently. We've consistently bought high upside/high impact players with just enough warts that they weren't snapped up by Madrid/Barca/Bayern. Your list is a bit harsh but I think it illustrates how lacking we are in complete footballers. Coming back to the thread topic, Otamendi is actually quite close, but he needs to do a better job of staying within himself and not responding to pressure with more pressure.

 

[domalino]

I know everyone is on a massive high after an incredible result, but he was the one player who did not rise to the occasion. How many times is he going to go to ground and nearly cost us? Fernandinho and Zabaleta were constantly covering for his mistakes and on another night (like 2 weeks ago) we would have been punished for it.

 

[kaz7]

Fuck sake,this is not the time to moan at any of them

 

[domalino]

Fuck sake,this is not the time to moan at any of them

Why? Why is after the match not the time to point out the player who consistently put us in situations where we could have conceded?

It shouldn't be lost amongst the many positives from this game. I can guarantee Pep won't overlook it because we got a good result.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Why? Why is after the match not the time to point out the player who consistently put us in situations where we could have conceded?

does it really matter right now though. just enjoy the win :)

 

[domalino]

does it really matter right now though. just enjoy the win :)

I can multi-task! Just wanted to get it down on paper before I forget after a few more drinks.