No Smoke Without Fire?

[leighton]

It just shows the small clubs like Blackpool will never get a peno agaisnt the RAGS. To be honest Holloway should be giving it the large one about the peno not been given it was a joke. IF it was given and they scored 3-0 up at home and I wouldnt of guessed that the Rags would of got back into the game. Its a case of the bigger teams getting the breaks while the smaller teams get fuck all.

 

[Anonymous]

the rags are almost royalty in the league, so no, not the wrong tree as such

although maybe down your own trousers

it is very frustrating to see them win, but i really don't think there is any fix up job going on.

 

[Sugarloaf]

Yet again a United game turns on a crucial decision, whether it's letting Neville off red cards, not giving stonewall penalties or allowing Nani to kick a stationary ball into the net - I'm losing count of the amount of times this has happened this season.

I'm not naive enough to think United are where they are purely due to referees, they are a very good side, but it has happened too often for too long.

In the second half Walton's performance totally shifted from impartial to biased, from the booking of Adam to individual freekicks to the blatant pen decision. Webb did the same vs Liverpool. Dowd did it last March. Clattenburg vs Spurs and the Nani fiasco. Marriner let Neville off a blatant red. They haven't lost with Walton in charge.

Google 'Walton paid off' - a fulham fan has documented several dodgy United decisions which turned games around.

It runs deeper than simply spur of the moment decisions IMO.

YouTube the Jonny Evans kick on Drogba and tell me how the FA, after watching that, decided no action was necessary. Rafael was let off last week after a conference call with Ferguson. Countless other examples of Rooney elbows and Ronaldo kicks have gone unpunished by both referees and the FA. The only 'harsh' thing the FA have done to United was the Ferdinand ban - everything else stinks of corruption.

Not that anyone will ever do anything about it.

Am I barking up the wrong tree here or is there a potential Serie A-style corruption going on?

Maybe I'm just bitter, but something just doesn't feel right.

 

[es1]

It just shows the small clubs like Blackpool will never get a peno agaisnt the RAGS. To be honest Holloway should be giving it the large one about the peno not been given it was a joke. IF it was given and they scored 3-0 up at home and I wouldnt of guessed that the Rags would of got back into the game. Its a case of the bigger teams getting the breaks while the smaller teams get fuck all.

anyone got a link to this penalty shout, i've not seen it!

 

[vallens]

When they played Birmingham and Bowyer scored in the last minute it was an offside goal from a handball,could someone clear that one up ?

 

[lancs blue]

When they played Birmingham and Bowyer scored in the last minute it was an offside goal from a handball,could someone clear that one up ?

Colour blind ref?

 

[Mancio]

Let me ask you this then - were the Serie A games much more consistently blatant? Genuine question - I would be very interested to hear from anyone who watched any of those matches in question.

i'm here.

no , were'nt more blatant than how the united games are.

and no money was paid.

the power , the prestige (international too) of the club and friendship with the referee and threatened them not to officiate the matches of the famous club were enough to create the corrupt system.

exactly what i can see around unites.

 

[johnmc]

We were lucky to win there. Tevez offside goal given and they had one incorrectly ruled out.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

 

[Villan10]

Psychological thing. Absolutely no chance of any sort of ref's paying. It would of been found out by now, especially as it has apparently been going on for 20 years or whatever people like to say. Of course someone would of come out and made the accusation.

Sometimes big clubs get big decisions because sometimes they are scared to make such controversial decisions, however I've also seen it go the other way where some Ref's who sort of over-try not to be biased, start giving the opposition plenty of decisions.

I wouldn't watch football if I geniunally thought money was involved and I just know it isn't. There is no even need for Fergie to do that and as much as you all hate him, I don't think that's in his nature.

Last year Drogba was offside for a goal against United, while Blues scored a goal against them earlier in the year that was handball and offside. So clearly not. Just referee's aren't that great.

 

[vallens]

Id expect to see a topic like this on RAWK ,its embarrassing.Drogba scored an offside goal last year at Old Trafford to win the league for Chelsea.I think that tests the conspiracy theory to the full.