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BillyShears said:shootmeifipost10k said:You don't know my stance on Mancini but from your question I can only think you have already made the assumption I think he's the bees knees and should be allowed a free rein with no critics which is far from the truth.
As for the other question it's a stupid one to ask dont you think ?
There you go mate. Of course it's a stupid question - but it's as stupid as saying I started this thread to because I knew it'd turn into a "Mancini bashing" one. No, I didn't - far from it. What i expected was to have pages and pages of indignant rage from people saying exactly what you've said below but in a more abusive fashion. Instead it's been a pretty interesting thread with people both agreeing and disagreeing, for the most part, without making things unpleasant or personal.
Look Billy I know full well your stance on Mancini and respect your opinion on him and there is no better place than here to put that across,but there's no getting away from the fact that your time spent on here berating him by far outweigh time spent on here on other threads ,now that is your choice but you have to expect every now and then someone like me picking you up on it as this thread will and has already turned into a Mancini bashing one as it not.
I still stand by that it was you intention for it and again will say there are far and away enough on here as it is without another one or do you think there should be a few more.
Honestly, thanks for the critique, but you're wrong. There aren't loads of threads on the forum bashing Mancini, not even close. There are two (maybe three including this one) where people are voicing their displeasure at decisions he's made, but that's to be expected considering our recent results.
In a way I do admire your persistance Billy and fully understand the reasoning behind it but sometimes you do go a little over the top with it all and it does come across like you're a bit consumed with it.
I have to say this and it's more than likely wrong but the way you come across at times it does sound like you want to be proven right ,it's like you asking the silly question above which wasn't really needed and I could come back with it by saying do you want whats best for Mancini or whats best for Billy.
It's very simple. I want what's best for City. My opinion is that an absentee manager at a crucial stage of the season, when results and performances have dropped significantly, isn't a good thing. If that's perceived as Mancini bashing then tough shit on those who feel like that. It's how I feel and this forum is here for us to express how we feel about City.
Anyway Mancini is off scouting a couple young players in italy who are playing tonight so no rest for the wicked.
Once again, a lovely glib statement to make. Bending over backwards to paint him in a good light whilst not once being able to acknowledge that considering how poor we've been in recent weeks and months, maybe, just maybe, extra time at Carrington could possibly be a little more important than scouting a player he may not have the opportunity to sign if he doesn't have a job come the summer.
You started off your contributions to this thread by trying to make it about me rather than about the point I'm making, and you're continuing to do that. It's unfortunate as it takes away from what is clearly a subject worthy of some discussion.
If like you've just admitted you expected rage from posters when starting the thread why start it in the first place why not come up with something that you would think would be a decent discussion.
You know full well this day off would have been planned well in advance like I've already said a few times so what would be the point in changing that if it is part of the fitness routine and when players already have things planned, maybe a bit of squad disharmony thrown into the loss of form will do us some good.
The Mancini bashing may be only 3 titled but if you read through other threads some posters are quick to turn those into just that I take this one in point as you say he should be here rather than being in Italy, well what would be the point if the squad in advance was given the day off do you expect him to cancel his plans and stay at home.To me that's just saying something for affect as it serves as much purpose as him sat at home while the squad as the day off.
My lovely glib statement as you say is just that and I've no idea if it's true or not and it wasn't to paint him as some glorious shining knight in harmour but maybe if some photos come out tonight of him scouting some players I'll look like some mystic meg. But it's just as easy to put some one in a good light as it is bad you only have to look at yourself for that.
I've no idea what the outcome of his visit to Italy will be so I will not be calling him on it unlike your good self who is berating him about being away and our performance next weekend before the game has been played.
I might have missed it and no doubt you wouldn't have may I ask if anyone had a go at Mancini when it looked like he was watching Eden Hazzard play the other week he was after all out of the country.
I started out by saying what is the point in berating the manager and how it will affect the game against Arsenal when you don't even know the result, by all means if we play total shit this weekend have a go for him being out of the country and the squad having the day off but untill then to me it's just you having another reason.
Asenal will be a tough game the squad having the day off and mancini being out of the country while the players are not here is not going to change that no matter how much you try and convince people it will.
I'll finish by quoting what you yourself typed it speaks volumes.
What i expected was to have pages and pages of indignant rage from people saying exactly what you've said below but in a more abusive fashion. Instead it's been a pretty interesting thread with people both agreeing and disagreeing.