North Korea 'Ready for Sacred War with South'

nashark said:
blueinsa said:
That is called doing as you are told.

I stand by my opinion that there is no religious freedom whatsoever in North Korea.

Article 68 of the North Korean constitution disagrees with you.
sweynforkbeard said:
This is a personality cult as found in many totalitarian states not a religion.

I think that would be splitting hairs. Either way, the people of NK are not without faith and would be willing to commit horrific crimes in accordance with their religion/personality cult. In this case, I think the term 'sacred' is completely valid.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_m4IRL4_PU[/youtube]

Article 68 also very clearly states the following: (2) Religion must not be used as a pretext for drawing in foreign forces or for harming the State or social order.

Freedom of religion means giving the people, freedom of thought and that just wont happen, regardless of what the constitution might promise.
 
blueinsa said:
Article 68 also very clearly states the following: (2) Religion must not be used as a pretext for drawing in foreign forces or for harming the State or social order.

So?

Did you actually read what you just quoted?

Or are you just quoting shit so you don't lose an argument?

The constitution makes it very clear that the state respects the religious freedom of an individual. Debating whether the state adheres to its constitution or not is another matter.
 
blueinsa said:
nashark said:
Article 68 of the North Korean constitution disagrees with you.


I think that would be splitting hairs. Either way, the people of NK are not without faith and would be willing to commit horrific crimes in accordance with their religion/personality cult. In this case, I think the term 'sacred' is completely valid.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_m4IRL4_PU[/youtube]

Article 68 also very clearly states the following: (2) Religion must not be used as a pretext for drawing in foreign forces or for harming the State or social order.

Freedom of religion means giving the people, freedom of thought and that just wont happen, regardless of what the constitution might promise.


What makes you think that a religious state has to even have religious freedom?

Throughout history there has been theocracy after theocracy that only allowed the people to be of 1 particular religion. This fact doesn't mean that the society wasn't religious.
 
Damocles said:
Nobody seems to understand NK.

Be aware, the above stuff is utter shit, NK haven't got the power to go toe to toe with the South and they are aware of it. This is propaganda at the highest form.

This is just propaganda for the citizens of NK, and the idiot journos keep reporting it as a legitimate threat.
I for one hope you're right, let's not forget they are now nuclear armed.
 
nashark said:
blueinsa said:
That is called doing as you are told.

I stand by my opinion that there is no religious freedom whatsoever in North Korea.

Article 68 of the North Korean constitution disagrees with you.
sweynforkbeard said:
This is a personality cult as found in many totalitarian states not a religion.

I think that would be splitting hairs. Either way, the people of NK are not without faith and would be willing to commit horrific crimes in accordance with their religion/personality cult. In this case, I think the term 'sacred' is completely valid.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_m4IRL4_PU[/youtube]

About 7 minutes in.


That's really interesting. A refining stage further than Hitler, Stalin or Mao and a warped fusion with aspects of Christian dogma. I see what you mean about the appropriate use of 'sacred.'
 
nashark said:
blueinsa said:
Article 68 also very clearly states the following: (2) Religion must not be used as a pretext for drawing in foreign forces or for harming the State or social order.

So?

Did you actually read what you just quoted?

Or are you just quoting shit so you don't lose an argument?

The constitution makes it very clear that the state respects the religious freedom of an individual. Debating whether the state adheres to its constitution or not is another matter.

I quote the same article from the constitution as you did yet im quoting shit?

Not interested in winning or losing mate, just posting my opinion that despite what the constitution claims, the reality will be very different for those wishing to practice what their constitution says is their right.
 
At least they'll get a Mcdonalds and a KFC out of it, bet they haven't got one now!
 
what's the betting with the financial outlay of iraq/afghanistan that america would probably ask mcdonalds and kfc to sponsor their little asian jaunt. already got the infrastructure mapped out and divvied the sites for the new restaurants. that's how war works right?
 
Im living in South Korea at the minute. The general atmosphere and reaction in the media is a lot less hysterical than it is the western press. Noone cares, theyve seen it before. It's seen as a way for NK to shore up strength and peacefully retaliate to the largest military drill South Korea has done for a long time (since the war?). Koreans seem to care a lot more about Japan then North Korea. The north is spoken about like an annoying brother who's going through some tough times. They hate the Japanese with a passion.

If Hitchens had his way we'd be bombing the place and torturing the people by now. It has to be time to reengage in talks with North Korea, they have stated they would be interested in talks, talks which in the 1990s (before Bush and his Axis of Evil wank) were going well.
 
Come on the North, China v Usa for the leader of the world title would be awesome
 

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