North Korea vs USA

almir said:
The best way to deal with North Korea is to not deal with it at all. Nobody certainly doesn't give a shit about north korean people so the best thing is to let it go until they own people do the change. With amount of indoctrination people are under Kim's regime, threats like form idiot Trump is just strengthening Kim domestically. Without this continuous shitting, the NK regime would relax at some time and their people would realize with time it can be better and throw them away on their own.

People on West don't know much about the life in communist society. They all think North Koreans massively can't wait to get rid of Kim but I guarantee you it is not the case.

First, they're isolated and don't know shit about the rest of the world so don't have much to be jealous of. They are under huge indoctrination and they'll buy those feelings massively.

Second, living in communist regime is hard for people who are aspiring for intellectual and economic freedom. You can't be special in those regimes unless you're regime, but the social protection by country is not that bad at all, if having enough is enough for you, you'll be pretty fine. We got rid of communist system here at Balkans 30 years ago, there are loads and loads of people who are nostalgic about those times. Most of them probably live better now but the basic safety socialist system is offering to basic people is something lot of them are missing in these times when tycoons with political background robbed all post-yugoslavia countries of all resources.

North Korea is special thing in this time of history but I am completely sure it is not half as bad for their people as Western media are portraying it. They would have tons of administration and galore of their citizens have a solid public job that gives them opportunity to live some working class life. Watching other peole around you living at similar standard makes it much easier. You don't have to worry about kids seeing new iphone their friend got, at least.
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Think turning a blind eye to Nazi Germany in the 1930's probably seemed like a wise move at the time as well.How did that work out !!!!!!!
 
vonkeynotvenky said:
Is he really as mentally unstable as we are led to believe? We have no real way of knowing because of our twisted media and corrupt politicians. We are led to believe that he runs the country and it's people in a cultish manner, if it IS true then he would push the big button wouldn't he?
Either way these are dangerous times and we the people on the sideline have no say in what if anything is going to happen.
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Are you talking about Trump or Kim?
 
almir said:
1. I am not worried at all. They won't use it just like anyone else haven't. To be perfectly clear, I couldn't give a shit.

2. I'm not sure what exactly of Geneva are you referring to but if it is something about having nuclear weapons or testing rockets and stuff, then I don't see why Geneva would ban them of having it while allowing USA. Britain, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Israel etc.. as I said earlier, it's political FFP. We're in, we can destroy the world clicking the few buttons but if you're not our mate, you won't coming in. Fuck that. And North Korea is far more peace loving country than any of those mentioned above. They haven't had a war for decades. All others above, except China, are in perpetual ones.
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The international community doesn't like unpredictable, mass murdering, megalomaniacs having nuclear weapons for a reason, and that's why the UN has asked them to stop what they're doing.

If you want to run the risk of these lunatics having an apocalyptic weapon then be my guest but the rest of us do give a shit.

Well there are a set of rules that nations must adhere to if they want to retain sovereignty. The torture, starving and mass murder of your own people is pretty high on the list of no's. So is not declaring what weapons you're testing/own or refusing to adhere to UN sanctions on such. Add to that the threats being issued to several neighbouring states and the US, a key NATO member.

In truth North Korea should have already have had an intervention, purely for human rights reasons. It's been allowed to continue in it's disgraceful form and may reach a point where they can cause serious damage to western backed nations and the west itself.
 
Ban-jani said:
The international community doesn't like unpredictable, mass murdering, megalomaniacs having nuclear weapons for a reason, and that's why the UN has asked them to stop what they're doing.

If you want to run the risk of these lunatics having an apocalyptic weapon then be my guest but the rest of us do give a shit.

Well there are a set of rules that nations must adhere to if they want to retain sovereignty. The torture, starving and mass murder of your own people is pretty high on the list of no's. So is not declaring what weapons you're testing/own or refusing to adhere to UN sanctions on such. Add to that the threats being issued to several neighbouring states and the US, a key NATO member.

In truth North Korea should have already have had an intervention, purely for human rights reasons. It's been allowed to continue in it's disgraceful form and may reach a point where they can cause serious damage to western backed nations and the west itself.
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West doesn't like countries they don't control to have any kind of decent weapons, it doesn't have anything with mass murdering and unpredictability. There's no bigger murderer on the world than USA itself but nobody dares to ask them to get rid of their weapons. How many wars North Korea had in their history and when was the last time when USA wasn't in few wars for one minute? Fuck that UN style shit talk mate, I don't buy that, sorry. There's no single kid on the world that is being killed by North Korea for decades, they are being killed daily by USA. And both of us know who is the only country that have ever used nuclear weapons, yesterday was anniversary of it. Hint- It's not North Korea.
 
nellyonthewing said:
Think turning a blind eye to Nazi Germany in the 1930's probably seemed like a wise move at the time as well.How did that work out !!!!!!!
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It worked out that some Japanese kids got nuclear bomb by peace loving, predicatble and in no way mass murderers America?

There is nothing similar with Nazi Germany and North Korea. North Korea doesn't have racist laws, North Korea doesn't have a plan to occupy whole world, they're shit in their own borders but all they do is trying to protect themselves with greatest security guarantee ever - nuclear weapon. Nobody was ever attacked by anyone after acquiring it and that's what they aspire for. I don't have problems with that. And I don't have an ounce of fear of their nuclear weapon. If Americans have, I couldn't give less shit. Less putting of their noses in other nations business, and they'd be fine just as I am.
 
Magicpole said:
America is our ally not Trump. He is a narcissistic, patholgical liar, whose ego and lack of intelligence could lead to the deaths of many.

He needs to be impeached along with Pentecostal Pence or we are all fucked.

"Fire and Fury"

What a fucking bellend.
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maybe not quite the bellend you would like us to beleive although i have not caught up with events from today 'thats if there are any' what would you expect hime to say something like 'you'l end up having a jolly good thrashing', he's picked his words ok with this one and for the moment 52 million S Koreans remain alive, its no loss to to Trump if he ends up dropping nukes on N Korea but he's fully aware of the damage that would be inflicted in other parts of the world before NK becomes an ash tray, the handling of the NK situation is no worse than what i would have expected from any other modern day US president
 
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