North Stand Construction Discussion

CC1 said:
but no proof?
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You can't provide the proof when the people with the proof are keeping the proof to themselves.

If City aren't selling home and away tickets to 3rd party ticket touting websites the club can prove that and kill the rumors and accusations dead straight away by being open and honest about where the away and home tickets are going, even as a percentage of distributed tickets, but they won't.

Viagogo was one of the clubs sponsors and ticket resellers once. What do you think the financial tie up was? What did Viagogo get out of the sponsorship deal?

If you click on the Viagogo link in the 2012 OS article it still takes you to the Viagogo City ticket page where you can buy tickets for the Wolves and West Ham games at ridiculous prices. Have a look.
https://www.mancity.com/news/club-n...nounce-viagogo-partnership#:~:text=Manchester
 
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Coatigan said:
I have no idea how it works, never been on a tout site, and it is probably not for this thread either. But while it is rolling I'll ask now rather than pulling it back to this when we are discussing something more relevant later.

Why would the club sell tickets to tout sites? Presumably they can't get more for tickets, and if they can they can't put it through the books.

I can get them selling cup ticket games on a free for all basis and that pissing regular going blues off not having first dibs. But can't see the benefit of the club selling to touts. If they did, it is not like they would admit it, so the calls for transparency would fall flat either way.

Clearly touting is an issue though, not just out club. Not just football or sports either.

Either way, I doubt they are building this stand to intentionally sell tickets to touts.
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I’ve no idea what’s happening with these tickets, but for the club to be recruiting somebody for a ticket compliance job suggests to me 2 things. First the club think there is a problem, secondly they don’t know what’s happening with tickets either, if the club themselves were selling them why would they employ somebody to investigate themselves ?
 
If City won’t say why not ask the match going fans with half half scarves where they got their ticket from?

I‘m probably misunderstanding!
 
blueparrot said:
I’ve no idea what’s happening with these tickets, but for the club to be recruiting somebody for a ticket compliance job suggests to me 2 things. First the club think there is a problem, secondly they don’t know what’s happening with tickets either, if the club themselves were selling them why would they employ somebody to investigate themselves ?
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They will not investigate themselves, they will seek out the Touts who obtain single tickets or maybe sometimes pairs who in the main got from Fans. They will penalise these Fans who in some instances might not know their ticket is being resold. They will go after someone who might use a concession when it should be an adult. They will then say they have done something about it. Smokescreen.
 
Cobwebcat said:
If City won’t say why not ask the match going fans with half half scarves where they got their ticket from?

I‘m probably misunderstanding!
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There's a post I've read I think on bluemoon where the poster listed a seat on the exchange and then spoke to the lad who had bought it at the match and they said they got it from live football tickets.

I've asked fans at away games, same answer.

We know for a fact we had a link with Viagogo it's fairly clear to me we have one now with live football tickets.
 
nmc said:
This^. Let’s go back to the 80s. Swales at the helm, club losing money hand over fist, North Stand scoreboard broken, team pretty dire, and we cash in on any talent we develop but safe standing on the Kippax just watch out for the bogs.
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Isn't it possible to aim for the best of both worlds. Success. Great facilities. A decent stand that gives people the experience they want? Criticising pricing decisions or organisational skills, or the new stand management isn't being ungrateful, it's just not wanting to lie down like a sad irrelevant nobody and accept poor decisions being made. Being critical of the bad decisions the suits make isn't being anti city in any way.

They're money grabbers who have brought a lot of success, but that doesn't excuse some of the bad stuff they do. People that criticise are actually just trying to make things better.....imo
 
Every club is at it. Look at the remaining city games on Livetickets ie 500 all over the stadium for the Wolves game.

They are club partners - if any UK company was flogging thousands of tickets for individual PL games there would be arrests made in the morning.

Madness that some on here are saying show me proof !!! Ffs ask any tourist in where they bought their ticket for a game which was mysteriously sold out on the club planner months ago.

The are selling tickets for huge mark ups without having to deal with any shit from supporters about prices as they are using the cover of Livefootball.
 
arcademik70 said:
Isn't it possible to aim for the best of both worlds. Success. Great facilities. A decent stand that gives people the experience they want? Criticising pricing decisions or organisational skills, or the new stand management isn't being ungrateful, it's just not wanting to lie down like a sad irrelevant nobody and accept poor decisions being made. Being critical of the bad decisions the suits make isn't being anti city in any way.

They're money grabbers who have brought a lot of success, but that doesn't excuse some of the bad stuff they do. People that criticise are actually just trying to make things better.....imo
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The money grabbing thing is nonsense.They have put far more money into City than they’ve taken out, if they wanted money making ventures there are far better places to invest their money for a far higher return. Do they want a better return than some fans would like ,maybe, do they do things not in the interests of some old time fans, probably.
We don’t know,exactly what their plans for the new extension are yet, I’ll wait and see but I do believe the owners will plan for a large section of our fan base. Anyone thinking different owners would do it any better or are IMO, deluded.
 
CC1 said:
Are we any different from any other top club?
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We could be, but we choose not to be off the pitch. We have followed what the other big clubs have done to and with their fan bases. We could have been bold and visionary in the way we sell and price our tickets, involving the fans, instead we attend the PL club meetings along with the very same clubs that have tried to destroy City over the last 15 years, discussed issues effecting other clubs and our club, and implement the same ideas and changes, but in different ways, that effect our fan base. The latest one, clubs clamping down on fans allowing family and friends to us season tickets.

I’m sure you haven’t forgot City wanting to join the super league, then backing out after the backlash from City fans, and Khaldoon offering a grovelling apology. That was the prime example of Sheikh Mansour’s club following the other PL clubs for fear of losing out on £100’s millions, with no thought at all for City fans and what City fans wanted, which wasn’t City in a Super League. Why would any City fan want City in a Super League? Only the people running City did.
 
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blueparrot said:
The money grabbing thing is nonsense.They have put far more money into City than they’ve taken out, if they wanted money making ventures there are far better places to invest their money for a far higher return. Do they want a better return than some fans would like ,maybe, do they do things not in the interests of some old time fans, probably.
We don’t know,exactly what their plans for the new extension are yet, I’ll wait and see but I do believe the owners will plan for a large section of our fan base. Anyone thinking different owners would do it any better or are IMO, deluded.
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If Sheikh Mansour sold City today he would make a huge profit on the club, on the land, and on the other investments in Manchester, like Manchester Life. Yes, he wants a return in his investment, which he’s now getting, £80mill profit last financial year. Long term, Sheikh Mansour will get all his money back and more. I have no doubt about that.
 
jrb said:
We could be, but we choose not to be off the pitch. We have followed what the other big clubs have done to and with their fan bases. We could have been bold and visionary in the way we sell and price our tickets, involving the fans, instead we attend the PL club meetings along with the very same clubs that have tried to destroy City over the last 15 years, discuss issues effecting other clubs and our club, and implement the same ideas and changes, but in different ways, that effect our fan base. The latest one, clubs clamping down on fans allowing family and friends to us season tickets.

I’m sure you haven’t forgot City wanting to join the super league, then backing out after the backlash from City fans, and Khaldoon offering a grovelling apology. That was the prime example of Sheikh Mansour’s club following the other PL clubs for fear of losing out on £100’s millions, with no thought at all for City fans and what City fans wanted, which wasn’t City in a Super League. Why would any City fan want City in a Super League? Only the people running City did.
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You have a point - but if the super league had gone ahead, we would have been left generations behind. Club hedged their bets. It’s business
 
CC1 said:
You have a point - but if the super league had gone ahead, we would have been left generations behind. Club hedged their bets. It’s business
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If the super league had gone ahead there would have been 1000’s of empty seats at the Etihad. I would have packed it in, like 1000’s of other City fans. Those seats would have been filled by our new fans, tourists, football fans, day trippers, half and half scarfers who want to watch City play Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Juventus, etc instead of Burnley, Luton, Villa, Everton, etc.
 
jrb said:
If Sheikh Mansour sold City today he would make a huge profit on the club, on the land, and on the other investments in Manchester, like Manchester Life. Yes, he wants a return in his investment, which he’s now getting, £80mill profit last financial year. Long term, Sheikh Mansour will get all his money back and more. I have no doubt about that.
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I’m sure he will, and as you say it’s an asset.Not sure any of the shareholders have taken any of the profit out yet though, but wouldn’t really know.
I understand they aren’t pefect and different fans have different complaints. Money grabbing though ,with all the investment that’s gone in and is going in isn’t one of them. See the Glazers for that.
 
blueparrot said:
I’m sure he will, and as you say it’s an asset.Not sure any of the shareholders have taken any of the profit out yet though, but wouldn’t really know.
I understand they aren’t pefect and different fans have different complaints. Money grabbing though ,with all the investment that’s gone in and is going in isn’t one of them. See the Glazers for that.
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I’ve never called Shiekh Mansour money grabbing. (I’m not saying you said I did) Nobody can argue or question his long-term vision and investment in the club, the CFG, East Manchester, and Manchester. We’re all grateful for what he’s done for the club on and off the pitch.

The only part of his ownership, which may not be of his doing, that has soured over the years, is the disconnect and discord between the club and the fans. I appreciate the club has to make some tough and unpopular decisions to increase the revenues coming into the club, but that could have been done better in my opinion.

That’s why I’m hoping along with many other City fans the club delivers a proper home end that all City fans want. That would be a positive start which the club and the fans can build on together.
 
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