North Stand Construction Discussion

[willipp]

Has anyone else been sent this survey by the club? Not answered it yet.

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So your name isn’t actually JRB?

 

[Centurions]

Is the cablenet system for the roof quite a rare way to build such a large roof? Looking at pictures of similar sized stadiums there doesn't seem to be that many, I'm guessing this has made things a lot harder than 4 'independent' roofs that don't support each other?

There's quite a few from a quick look, Spurs for starters stands out. The Millennium Dome built in London although having a fabric roof was still the same design. The Olympic Stadium in Munich is similar.

It certainly presents some interesting engineering problems if changing the roof.

Edit: WHU's London Stadium has one as well.

 

[Coatigan]

Is the cablenet system for the roof quite a rare way to build such a large roof? Looking at pictures of similar sized stadiums there doesn't seem to be that many, I'm guessing this has made things a lot harder than 4 'independent' roofs that don't support each other?

It is more efficient as a whole, because there is less bulk of grounded steelwork with strong connections and bracing. And far less material and weight in general.

You can see the amount of steelwork just in the two towers built so far, and that costs a fair bit compared to say two large piers and 18 cables. It arguably makes it harder to alter, but I think it is also quite hard to alter big beefy steel structures too like in other more 'conventional' stadiums, where there would be more material wastage and material in general. As you can see for example with the struggles at Anfield and the Toilet, where to replace a side it could be as far as demolishing and rebuilding almost the entire side.

As I understand it, each of the 4 sides can still be replaced individually, as long as the corner junctions (the larger node you see below) are are kept under tension/tightened. But they need ultimately (re)connected between them to stop twisting.



Edit, the cornerstay ties are actually staying as part of the north stand refurb (they are the two side smaller cable anchors).

 

[jrb]

So your name isn’t actually JRB?

JRB are the first letters of my first name, middle name, and surname. Most people call me JB.

 

[jrb]

Alex.

Good luck at the meeting with the club.

I hope the club give you genuine and honest answers to the questions you ask.

 

[jitsubluedan]

Has anyone else been sent this survey by the club? Not answered it yet.

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I get them quite regularly, no idea why they’re looking for my views

 

[LEXSTARproject]

 

[spinney]

Wednesday did feel particularly egregious in this regard, particularly with the number of “influencers” in the home end. This was particularly annoying for me given the good step we achieved with the matchday criteria. So it pretty much points to the third party resale websites or the hospitality packages which aren’t subject to rigorous criteria.

Given this isn’t the first time something like this has happened, it won’t surprise you to know that I’ve asked about this before. That said, very happy to do so again, as me and a few others were preparing to do. At this point, the club are focused on the new Ticketing Compliance role to undertake a strategic review of the issue. I don’t want to prejudge a role, but the proof will be in the pudding.

As an aside, until very recently, the club followed Live Football Tickets on Twitter. It’s “one of the biggest sites in operation,” the club’s words not mine. They believed this must have been in error but couldn’t determine when this happened. Optically, that really doesn’t help anyone.




When I was writing my first post, I did think about specific points - so this will be really helpful.

the osc have raised this issue before and were particularly worried about playing a few teams whose fans would get in the home areas in large numbers

the celtic game was the scenario of city fans biggest nightmare but the club didnt want to listen and didnt seem to be bothered as to why that happened, nor care that the celtic game came so close to really really big trouble

 

[van_dan]

 

[gkmcfc]

Wednesday did feel particularly egregious in this regard, particularly with the number of “influencers” in the home end. This was particularly annoying for me given the good step we achieved with the matchday criteria. So it pretty much points to the third party resale websites or the hospitality packages which aren’t subject to rigorous criteria.

Given this isn’t the first time something like this has happened, it won’t surprise you to know that I’ve asked about this before. That said, very happy to do so again, as me and a few others were preparing to do. At this point, the club are focused on the new Ticketing Compliance role to undertake a strategic review of the issue. I don’t want to prejudge a role, but the proof will be in the pudding.

As an aside, until very recently, the club followed Live Football Tickets on Twitter. It’s “one of the biggest sites in operation,” the club’s words not mine. They believed this must have been in error but couldn’t determine when this happened. Optically, that really doesn’t help anyone.




When I was writing my first post, I did think about specific points - so this will be really helpful.

There are an awful lot of groups, schools and so on with purchase history now. You see them at the group stage games that many blouses swerve.