North Stand Construction Discussion

[eyalluvitt]

The “when will the oil state funded success ever” end

 

[Manchester33]

Last week, I posted a survey here (and a few other threads on Bluemoon/social media). For context, 1894 has been discussing the extension with MCFC. We will likely organise a new singing section in the extended stand when it opens. We wanted to get some initial feedback to start discussing our ideas as a group - which would be based on a broader set of opinions.

I wanted to share some of the feedback we received.

1 - In total, we received 489 responses.

2 - Fans generally want the entire North Stand to be designated singing sections (levels 1 and 2). There was a moderate preference for level 2 over level 1 after that.

3 - There will be high demand for tickets in the new stand. Around 2/3rds of fans responding said they want to go into the expanded North Stand, with a further 16% unsure/waiting to hear more info.

4 - Fans are overwhelmingly positive about the expansion plans. The average rating (with one low and five high) was 4.52.

5 - The most important factors (when considering if fans would move to the North Stand) were:
(In order)
a. Atmosphere
b. Price
c. Rail Seating
d. Proximity to 1894
e. Ability to stand near friends/family

6 - 82% of fans think we should move the family stand elsewhere or not have a family stand at all.

Please remember that these are just results from a comparatively small survey compared to what the club sees. 1894 has not decided anything as of yet. We will be having meetings with the club over the coming weeks where we will form a plan (and as part of that, we will encourage the club to offer opportunities for regular fans to have their say too).

 

[Shaelumstash]

Citizen stand for me, cos we’ll all be citizens in the home end, always there loud and proud, protectors of our great club.
Banners, flags and scarves proper home end.
if not citizens stand then it must be the 1894 stand.

Jesus Christ. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I really hope it's not the Cityzen stand or 1894, both cringy as fuck.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

There are some great shouts posted here. Probably not a popular choice for the name of the stand but a mention somewhere within the development to Bernard Halford would be a nice touch.

You gotta be having a laugh right?

The bloke was a fucking charlatan, responsible for Swales sticking around as long as he did.

A snitch for Swales and Boler.

The new owners were too quick to try and show links to the past and Halford was simply in the right place, as always.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Last week, I posted a survey here (and a few other threads on Bluemoon/social media). For context, 1894 has been discussing the extension with MCFC. We will likely organise a new singing section in the extended stand when it opens. We wanted to get some initial feedback to start discussing our ideas as a group - which would be based on a broader set of opinions.

I wanted to share some of the feedback we received.

1 - In total, we received 489 responses.

2 - Fans generally want the entire North Stand to be designated singing sections (levels 1 and 2). There was a moderate preference for level 2 over level 1 after that.

3 - There will be high demand for tickets in the new stand. Around 2/3rds of fans responding said they want to go into the expanded North Stand, with a further 16% unsure/waiting to hear more info.

4 - Fans are overwhelmingly positive about the expansion plans. The average rating (with one low and five high) was 4.52.

5 - The most important factors (when considering if fans would move to the North Stand) were:
(In order)
a. Atmosphere
b. Price
c. Rail Seating
d. Proximity to 1894
e. Ability to stand near friends/family

6 - 82% of fans think we should move the family stand elsewhere or not have a family stand at all.

Please remember that these are just results from a comparatively small survey compared to what the club sees. 1894 has not decided anything as of yet. We will be having meetings with the club over the coming weeks where we will form a plan (and as part of that, we will encourage the club to offer opportunities for regular fans to have their say too).

Thank you for all you do in trying to make the atmosphere better, it's really needed and must be a thankless task at times.

In terms of the pre-match displays, again I know it must take an awful lot of time, money and effort to get those things organised and lots of people really like the look of them, so bravo to you lot for putting in the effort.

In terms of singing specifically, do you think the flags, banners, tifo etc has a positive, negative or no impact on the singing of the people involved in the display? Is the person waving the flag more or less likely to sing if he's got a flag in his hand?

The reason I ask, is would it be worth considering having the visual displays at one end of the ground, and singers at the other? It's hard enough getting songs off the ground nowadays as it is, but it must be even harder waving a 20 foot flag around and organising a tifo display at the same time.

 

[pride in battle]

Fantastic....thats the aim.

" Grandad, tell me about the CENTURIANS again please "

He's losing the plot mate...

 

[jrb]

Jesus Christ. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I really hope it's not the Cityzen stand or 1894, both cringy as fuck.

Got any naming ideas that aren't 'cringey as fuck'?

We can all crticize other people for making an effort and coming up with ideas.

 

[big gaz]

You gotta be having a laugh right?

The bloke was a fucking charlatan, responsible for Swales sticking around as long as he did.

A snitch for Swales and Boler.

The new owners were too quick to try and show links to the past and Halford was simply in the right place, as always.

Always classy to speak ill of the dead, he did a good job for the Failsworth branch but hey ho.
However it should be called the North Stand.

 

[Jacko1956]

Always classy to speak ill of the dead, he did a good job for the Failsworth branch but hey ho.
However it should be called the North Stand.

Totally agree if we start naming every fkg stand from bits of our history we'll be the laughing stock of other fans ! Don't even like the cheesy later shows ! At least we didn't do one against Bayern and the atmosphere was like a step back in time all generated by the fans .

 

[levets]

Got any naming ideas that aren't 'cringey as fuck'?

We can all crticize other people for making an effort and coming up with ideas.

Yes… ‘The North Stand’

 

[jrb]

Yes… ‘The North Stand’

One of the options I put in the poll, which isn't up yet.

 

[jrb]

Totally agree if we start naming every fkg stand from bits of our history we'll be the laughing stock of other fans ! Don't even like the cheesy later shows ! At least we didn't do one against Bayern and the atmosphere was like a step back in time all generated by the fans .

You mean like the Colin Bell stand? ;-)

A very big bit of our history Mr Bell was.

 

[Jacko1956]

You mean like the Colin Bell stand? ;-)

A very big bit of our history Mr Bell was.

That's fine Bell was special and for 34 years we had a big black hole of mediocrity ! Now we have 12 years of continuing success with great memories call it the North Stand and put further statues up for legends, the more we name other stands it devalues the Colin Bell stand which by definition is the main stand !

 

[Gone for a Burton]

Great shout. If anyone deserves a stand naming after them it’s Summerbee.

I’m not bothered about the ‘centurions stand’. It was a great achievement, but it’s barely mentioned and for me isn’t above things like the Aguero goal or players like Summerbee

He didn't do it for nothing you know !!

He's losing the plot mate...

Plot...Im not Guido Forks !!

 

[jrb]

That's fine Bell was special and for 34 years we had a big black hole of mediocrity ! Now we have 12 years of continuing success with great memories call it the North Stand and put further statues up for legends, the more we name other stands it devalues the Colin Bell stand which by definition is the main stand !

That’s a matter of opinion. I don’t think naming the 3 other stands, if that ever happens, devalues the Colin Bell stand, or Colin Bell himself. I wouldn’t think anything less of Colin Bell, if for example, the expanded North stand was called a different name or called the Sergio Agüero stand. Unfortunately I never had the privilege of seeing Colin Bell play or the other great City players in that wonderful and famous City team.

 

[Manchester33]

Thank you for all you do in trying to make the atmosphere better, it's really needed and must be a thankless task at times.

In terms of the pre-match displays, again I know it must take an awful lot of time, money and effort to get those things organised and lots of people really like the look of them, so bravo to you lot for putting in the effort.

In terms of singing specifically, do you think the flags, banners, tifo etc has a positive, negative or no impact on the singing of the people involved in the display? Is the person waving the flag more or less likely to sing if he's got a flag in his hand?

The reason I ask, is would it be worth considering having the visual displays at one end of the ground, and singers at the other? It's hard enough getting songs off the ground nowadays as it is, but it must be even harder waving a 20 foot flag around and organising a tifo display at the same time.

Thanks for the nice reply. We get a lot of positive feedback and it is rewarding when people react positively to what we do - you always get the negative people popping up here and there but after nearly a decade we’ve developed pretty thick skin!

You raise a good point. We know that ‘flags don’t sing’. I’ll mention that the lads who wave flags are all ‘loons’ and will be waving flags/singing/shouting simultaneously. But generally speaking fans are probably quieter when participating in a display.

There’s no scientific way to measure the effect our displays have on the atmosphere (singing). I think they add to the ‘culture’ we want to instil at the Etihad. Overall I think fans like us taking the lead and having smart, witty banners (Pannick on the streets of London - for example) and that it builds more pride among our fan base. That should make people feel more passionate and more likely to sing?

Ultimately singing and displays are two separate things (we treat them as such - we have people who focus more on displays and others who focus more on ‘atmosphere’/noise).

 

[Shaelumstash]

Got any naming ideas that aren't 'cringey as fuck'?

We can all crticize other people for making an effort and coming up with ideas.

Yes, the Sergio Aguero stand, I’ve said it earlier in the thread. The Bert Trautman stand would be fine too.

It’s nothing personal mate, I’ve never liked the term Cityzens, I don’t identify with it whatsoever and never have.

Of course you’re entitled to your opinion, and I’m entitled to mine.

 

[levets]

Yes, the Sergio Aguero stand, I’ve said it earlier in the thread. The Bert Trautman stand would be fine too.

It’s nothing personal mate, I’ve never liked the term Cityzens, I don’t identify with it whatsoever and never have.

Of course you’re entitled to your opinion, and I’m entitled to mine.

Cityzens is a pet hate of mine…. It’s ‘CITIZENS’

 

[trevorriley]

Im not a big fan of naming stands, south stand and north stand still sound good, one of best names for me since my years at city was "KIPPAX". Plain old simple kippax.

Not to sound to harsh on the players / managers that come and go but this club in particular is about the fans ( although hypo bayern think differently ). So relate it to the fans when naming, if we have to name it at all.

 

[The zab man]

I completely agree with The Kippax ^^^