Northern Soul- Sssshhhh.... Keep it to yourself

Art said:
What's the difference between Northern Soul and Soul?
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I dont know what it's all about..

I asked Boon to play Here It Comes-Doves(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ufv4f0krc) at South on Saturday.. they always had Wigan Casino projected on the stage when playing it, and I always thought its a tribute to those days.. he played it and sure enough it went down a storm..

Northern Soul is Manc Motown isnt it? haha (I really dont know!)
 
Art said:
What's the difference between Northern Soul and Soul?
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Nothing. Soul is soul, end of. BUT, towards the end of the 60's whilst down south people had progressed towards funk, in the North and midlands the resident DJ's for the first time were scratching below the surface of Tamla motown Stax and Atlantic and were getting their hands on thousands of discs that commercially flopped in America purely because the market was flooded with small record companies churning out record after record.
These sounds began to gain a solid following to the point where a black American sound became synominous with clubs the North Of England, namely the Twisted Wheel on Whitworth St, Va Va's in Bolton, The Golden Torch in Stoke and Catacombs in Wolverhampton. A very underground scene it was to and a writer for Blues and Soul Magazine Dave Godin(rip)
wrote an article where he described the sound favoured in these clubs was four/five year old undiscovered tunes which he described as 'Northern Soul'. The title immediately caught on. All these clubs closed one by one but in 73 Wigan opened and Northern Soul became far more publicised with some clumsy attempts to cash in from the likes of Pye record's Disco demand label. After Wigan the soul scene went back underground and the traditional stompers were replced by a slower sound for the serious soulie at The Top of the World in Stafford. Bizarrely the best nighter in the 80's in my opinion was the 100 club in London.
For me, the best Northern records were made between 66-68. Staunch mods generally prefer earlier RnB where as many soulies prefer later 70's modern soul. Richard Searling rarely plays anything made before the late seventies at functions these days.
And it's diversified that much over 40 years that it just about covers the whole lot now. Probably the golden rule is that it must not be too mainstream or commercial. You won't EVER hear Dancing in the Street in a Northern soul night but you might hear One Way out and yet both records are by Martha and the Vandellas on the Tamla Motown label...one was never released. That's the whole point of this thread actually. Records are being made by contempory artists that I know have a very credible northern soul sound although they will NEVER be adopted by the genre because they weren't made at the right time and too commercially successful. If you ever want to listen to it done really badly, just click on any of Ian Levine's Karoeke shite on youtube.
Hope that answers your question.
 
Newlunar said:
Art said:
What's the difference between Northern Soul and Soul?
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Nothing. Soul is soul, end of. BUT, towards the end of the 60's whilst down south people had progressed towards funk, in the North and midlands the resident DJ's for the first time were scratching below the surface of Tamla motown Stax and Atlantic and were getting their hands on thousands of discs that commercially flopped in America purely because the market was flooded with small record companies churning out record after record.
These sounds began to gain a solid following to the point where a black American sound became synominous with clubs the North Of England, namely the Twisted Wheel on Whitworth St, Va Va's in Bolton, The Golden Torch in Stoke and Catacombs in Wolverhampton. A very underground scene it was to and a writer for Blues and Soul Magazine Dave Godin(rip)
wrote an article where he described the sound favoured in these clubs was four/five year old undiscovered tunes which he described as 'Northern Soul'. The title immediately caught on. All these clubs closed one by one but in 73 Wigan opened and Northern Soul became far more publicised with some clumsy attempts to cash in from the likes of Pye record's Disco demand label. After Wigan the soul scene went back underground and the traditional stompers were replced by a slower sound for the serious soulie at The Top of the World in Stafford. Bizarrely the best nighter in the 80's in my opinion was the 100 club in London.
For me, the best Northern records were made between 66-68. Staunch mods generally prefer earlier RnB where as many soulies prefer later 70's modern soul. Richard Searling rarely plays anything made before the late seventies at functions these days.
And it's diversified that much over 40 years that it just about covers the whole lot now. Probably the golden rule is that it must not be too mainstream or commercial. You won't EVER hear Dancing in the Street in a Northern soul night but you might hear One Way out and yet both records are by Martha and the Vandellas on the Tamla Motown label...one was never released. That's the whole point of this thread actually. Records are being made by contempory artists that I know have a very credible northern soul sound although they will NEVER be adopted by the genre because they weren't made at the right time and too commercially successful. If you ever want to listen to it done really badly, just click on any of Ian Levine's Karoeke shite on youtube.
Hope that answers your question.
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Yeah mate cheers.Just could never tell the difference and thought I was missing something.
 
Pearcey said:
For example... 1,2,3 by Len Barry... would that be considered 'Northern Soul' ?
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Again, it's definitly got the right sound but it's just too commercial to be considered by Northern DJ's, they wouldn't play a £2 multi million seller when they've got £400 and upwards singles in their record box's.

I see Sharleen Spitteri's having her slice of the neuvo British blue eyed soul pie as well. Very Burt Bacharach-ish. Have a look at the drummer, you'll piss yourself.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjy_yPURaOE[/youtube]
 
Newlunar said:
Pearcey said:
For example... 1,2,3 by Len Barry... would that be considered 'Northern Soul' ?
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Again, it's definitly got the right sound but it's just too commercial to be considered by Northern DJ's, they wouldn't play a £2 multi million seller when they've got £400 and upwards singles in their record box's.

I see Sharleen Spitteri's having her slice of the neuvo British blue eyed soul pie as well. Very Burt Bacharach-ish. Have a look at the drummer, you'll piss yourself.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjy_yPURaOE
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could you PM me with some other stuff that I may like then...

Thanks in advance.
 
Hey guys, don't want to build up too much excitement, but I've just found my video of 'Coast to Coast'. I taped it on a Scotch E180 EG when it was broadcast and I've got it in front of me now.

Don't know what the quality's like as haven't played this video in years, it's just like an old treasure which I never threw out !

Will try and watch it to check on the quality, and post the results on here.

Watch this space...


8.10pm - just finished watching 'Coast to Coast'. Terrific !

Quality is excellent on VHS, and the tape is over 20 years old. Some great soundtracks.

Might be possible for me to transfer it to DVD eventually, so fingers crossed.

Glenda - Thanks for the link to Luther Ingram. He was one of my favourites back in the late late 60's early 70's. Loved 'My Honey & Me' and of course 'If Loving You Is Wrong', though neither would be classed as 'Northern'

I think he also did a version of 'I Spy For The FBI ' ?
 
Norman Cook likes Northern to.

Sliced Tomatoes- just Bros

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W78s3K3MtWY[/youtube]

Fat boy slim

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1894 said:
Hey guys, don't want to build up too much excitement, but I've just found my video of 'Coast to Coast'. I taped it on a Scotch E180 EG when it was broadcast and I've got it in front of me now.

Don't know what the quality's like as haven't played this video in years, it's just like an old treasure which I never threw out !

Will try and watch it to check on the quality, and post the results on here.

Watch this space...


8.10pm - just finished watching 'Coast to Coast'. Terrific !

Quality is excellent on VHS, and the tape is over 20 years old. Some great soundtracks.

Might be possible for me to transfer it to DVD eventually, so fingers crossed.

Glenda - Thanks for the link to Luther Ingram. He was one of my favourites back in the late late 60's early 70's. Loved 'My Honey & Me' and of course 'If Loving You Is Wrong', though neither would be classed as 'Northern'

I think he also did a version of 'I Spy For The FBI ' ?
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been after a copy of coast to coast for years
been let down two many times about copying it

would love a copy of that
and if you need any help in copying or anything
please PM me

also i would do some copying and re offer to members
 
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