Nottingham attack | Three people confirmed dead

[ZenHalfTimeCrock]

There’s no way through the loss of a child. None.
Ever.

Although there undoubtedly isn't, have come admire Nick Cave's Red Hand Files, where he often responds to those who have been bereaved.

A lot of Faith, Hope & Carnage, his recent book of interviews, includes reflections on the death of his son. It also includes a quite extraordinary poem that was sent to him by a mother who had just lost her son. The book has just come out in paperback and it's easy to find just by flicking through a copy for anyone who finds themselves in Waterstones or another bookstore.

 

[Craig]

I mean in general when these horrible attacks happen. There was one in Stockholm in about 2012 and that didn't involve murdering the driver. They seem to obtain these vehicles so easily. It's like they all learnt how to hotwire vehicles when they were kids from their criminal parents, or getting into the wrong crowd while growing up.

Maybe I am not thinking straight because I get so raged when such events happen. When people get angry, they don't always think properly or with common sense.

No need to have a go at me.

If you’re a complete lunatic intent on killing yourself and as many people as possible it wouldn’t be hard to get hold of pretty much any vehicle.

 

[johnnytapia]

Although there undoubtedly isn't, have come admire Nick Cave's Red Hand Files, where he often responds to those who have been bereaved.

A lot of Faith, Hope & Carnage, his recent book of interviews, includes reflections on the death of his son. It also includes a quite extraordinary poem that was sent to him by a mother who had just lost her son. The book has just come out in paperback and it's easy to find just by flicking through a copy for anyone who finds themselves in Waterstones or another bookstore.

When I was very young (3 or 4) our next door neighbours’ 8 year old son drowned in a pond in the local park. My dad was there when the police frogmen pulled him out. He had been trying to help find him with the lad’s dad. We’ve still got a photo of his mum laying flowers at the boy’s grave. I can’t imagine the pain, grief, sorrow that they must have endured. I genuinely cannot. It’s beyond my understanding. How could you continue? People do, as did the boy’s parents, but life would always be empty. An irreplaceable lacuna.

 

[Grassland Blue]

When I was very young (3 or 4) our next door neighbours’ 8 year old son drowned in a pond in the local park. My dad was there when the police frogmen pulled him out. He had been trying to help find him with the lad’s dad. We’ve still got a photo of his mum laying flowers at the boy’s grave. I can’t imagine the pain, grief, sorrow that they must have endured. I genuinely cannot. It’s beyond my understanding. How could you continue? People do, as did the boy’s parents, but life would always be empty. An irreplaceable lacuna.

I lost my daughter in January, she was just 37. My regret is not spending enough time with her over the years. (How much time is enough?)
Here is one story which has always stayed with me.
A workmate lost his 18 year old son, an only child. He was with a mate, they were experimenting with 'substances', he had an accident and was killed.
My work friend was a catholic and because of his circumstances the father had said that he should only have one child.
My work friend really wanted 2 children but took the advice of the father and only had one.
He lamented that he wished he hadn't followed the fathers' advice.

He left this life with no heirs.

 

[1961_vintage]

I can’t imagine the pain, grief, sorrow that they must have endured. I genuinely cannot. It’s beyond my understanding. How could you continue? People do, as did the boy’s parents, but life would always be empty. An irreplaceable lacuna.

All true and more. Days such as today and other such events through the year bring their own sense of precious, beautiful memories, alongside exposure to intense pain and loss.

Nevertheless, and as I have posted elsewhere, you work and you work and you work to establish what ultimately becomes your new "normal", a previously unimaginable normal where pain and anger and loss and grief and sadness have to be managed-in to your everyday existence and fight for survival.

Ultimately, it's about finding a reason for living.

 

[west didsblue]

Killer just been sentenced. Indefinite detention in high security hospital.

The mother of one of the murdered students has made a very hard hitting statement criticising the police and CPS, and asked some very pertinent questions about their failings.

 

[BigJoe#1]

He should be executed, put to death. He has nothing worthy to contribute to this world or society.

As he was spared what he deserved he should never see the light of day again.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

He should be executed, put to death. He has nothing worthy to contribute to this world or society.

As he was spared what he deserved he should never see the light of day again.

If that is the criteria, should the severely disabled and pensioners be killed too?

 

[BigJoe#1]

If that is the criteria, should the severely disabled and pensioners be killed too?

WTF you talking about.... murdered 3 people and tried to kill three more.

Anyone that indisputably carries out such a crime deserves that yes.

 

[mexico1970]

He should be executed, put to death. He has nothing worthy to contribute to this world or society.

As he was spared what he deserved he should never see the light of day again.

You're going to attract the professional weepers with that post.

The police had a warrant out for him and he still managed to commit this atrocity, the families must be distraught over this pointless and looks like preventable act.