Now Kia is having a go at Mancini

[mancity1]

Just one example, from about ten minutes before the post match interviews;

I wonder what the next myth will be to make this out to be all Mancini's fault.

Who's saying this is all Mancini's fault?

 

[M18CTID]

Whilst I don't like him at all, the one thing Kia is right about is that most top managers keep things in house.

In the example given using Fabregas and Nasri, didn't Wenger not "keep it in house" by saying that they were going nowhere 20 minutes before the taxis arrived?

Wenger had his players sold from underneath him. there can be no comparison to what Tevez did...and either way. Who's in charge Mancini or Tevez and his shitbag of an advisor?

If I'd been Mancini I'd have dragged the little **** off the bench by his throat.

What would you rather he do when asked why Tevez hadn't come on and what the row that Shreeves watched and reported? "Carlows felt a leetle unwell"...bollocks, call the fucker out for his disgraceful behaviour.

Exactly - it was impossible to keep things "in house" on this occasion. The pictures were beamed live across the whole planet and Mancini glossing over it would've made him look fucking stupid.

Most of us have tolerated Tevez and his constant moaning because of the great things he's done on the pitch over the past 2 seasons, but when it gets to the point that we can't even get him on the pitch when asked then it's time to wave him goodbye.

 

[flb]

Just one example, from about ten minutes before the post match interviews;

I wonder what the next myth will be to make this out to be all Mancini's fault.

Who's saying this is all Mancini's fault?

Its being implied that Mancini should have turned a blind eye to the goings on on the bench and should have swore at him in private.

Tevez wasnt expecting Mancini to call him out on live tv with millions listening to it-that shocked the fat little twat that is for sure-Mancini has got the balls to put anybody infront of a jury-good on him.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

It was mentioned in game, can't remember exactly what was said but I remember the commentators definitely touched on it. Words to effect of "there's clearly an argument going on at the man city bench" (camera's then cut to the bench showing Tevez wave the back of his hand in the direction of Mancini who in turn was finger pointing back). TV absolutely knew something had gone off, and it was inevitable they were going to question RM about it. Why shouldn't he answer the question with honesty. Its appeared clear to all, despite the backtracking since, that Tevez refused to come off the bench. Mancini was right to make it clear to all that such an act of insubordination will not be tolerated on his watch. Sadly for you Dave, it seems to have strengthened his position.

Yes it was, but noone knew what was really going on. It's not just the admitting of it that's the problem, it's the statement that he'll never play for us again which gives the club no room for maneuvre.

And if you think this has strengthened Mancini's position you're deluded. What do you think Abu Dhabi think about this? It's another fallout, another ton of cash wasted on a player the manager can't get on with. It's further evidence of a disunited squad and further bad publicity for Manchester City, this time on a world level.

If we keep winning he's bombproof, but he leaves himself wide open if the results start to go tits up if you ask me.

It's worth remembering the squad worship Tevez too.

Wheres the evidence that the squad worship tevez dave? Why should cunts like him be given more holidays than other team mates and turn up for pre-season later than everybody else for the past three seasons?

Mancini has tried in his own words to accomodate him for the past two seasons-its not worked,with a player yet again he didnt sign.

Theres only one person who has shamed the people in Abu Dhabi and its Tevez.

Richards in today's Guardian interview. Bellamy when he did the summarising on ESPN of our Fulham away game. It's obvious the squad respect him immensely. That's not to say they don't want him gone after he's reiterated his desire to leave.

Look, I'm not defending Tevez. I'm questioning the manager going public that he'll never play for City again. It was a daft decision, nothing will dissauade me of that fact.

 

[mancity1]

Yes it was, but noone knew what was really going on. It's not just the admitting of it that's the problem, it's the statement that he'll never play for us again which gives the club no room for maneuvre.

I don't want the club to manouvre on that stance.

And if you think this has strengthened Mancini's position you're deluded. What do you think Abu Dhabi think about this? It's another fallout, another ton of cash wasted on a player the manager can't get on with. It's further evidence of a disunited squad and further bad publicity for Manchester City, this time on a world level.

Bad publicity for Tevez alone. And I do believe it has strengthened Mancini's position at the club, both with the owners and the supporters.

If we keep winning he's bombproof, but he leaves himself wide open if the results start to go tits up if you ask me.

Same whether Tevez happened or not.

It's worth remembering the squad worship Tevez too.

Blackburn was a great result don't you think?

Certainly bad publicity for Tevez , Moomba nobody could disagree with you but its not good for us either when the man we made captain the season before embarresses the brand to a worldwide audience and a media thirsty for a story beyond our meek second half effort and two poor lapses in the last ten minutes of the first half.

When an employee of a firm embarresses himself in the eyes of the customer Moomba whether you or I agree or not the perception of the whole company he represents often misguided mind you is thought of much less by that same customer.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Whilst I don't like him at all, the one thing Kia is right about is that most top managers keep things in house.

In the example given using Fabregas and Nasri, didn't Wenger not "keep it in house" by saying that they were going nowhere 20 minutes before the taxis arrived?

Wenger had his players sold from underneath him. there can be no comparison to what Tevez did...and either way. Who's in charge Mancini or Tevez and his shitbag of an advisor?

If I'd been Mancini I'd have dragged the little **** off the bench by his throat.

What would you rather he do when asked why Tevez hadn't come on and what the row that Shreeves watched and reported? "Carlows felt a leetle unwell"...bollocks, call the fucker out for his disgraceful behaviour.

Agreed. The Idea that Mancini has somehow been weakened, or lost some credibility in this is ridiculous. Virtually all pundits, ex players, the media in general are behind him, even Ferguson and numerous other managers, we would normally consider 'Enemies.' To suggest that he somehow try to disguise what was an acceptable reaction to disraceful behaviour in the hope that it may pacify media scrutiny in the future is also ridiculous, in my opinion.
We signed the little shit, plus others of the same ilk because we needed good footballers quickly, and our owners are not wet behind the ears amateurs, they were fully aware of the ballache Tevez creates wherever he goes, but a glance at the Premier league table shows you take the rough with the smooth.
Our world profile has been enhanced, we are the talk of football, and I for one have not heard much anti Mancini talk so far.

 

[M18CTID]

We'll end up selling him for some stupid knock down price in Jan.

We couldn't sell him for the stupid made-up 40 million one in the summer.

So...if he goes for 25 million is that knock-down if you couldn't get any more for him in the first place?

He wants to leave. Will do anything to leave, so the soon we all accept it and get the fuck on with it we can get down to business of finishing above the rags.

Spot on. I reckon this episode might have theoretically knocked 10-15 million tops off any potential fee. That's a lot of money but when you compare it to how much we have lost or about to lose on the likes of RSC, Robinho, Bridge, Bellamy, Adebayor, it pales into insignificance for me. Pound for pound, Tevez has arguably been our best value for money player these past 3 years but if we can get £25 million for someone who I now see as damaged goods, I'll be delighted.

Hopefully Anzi will express an interest in buying him ;)

 

[Biggsy1]

Maybe with have diminished his re-sale value maybe we are being dragged through the mire again.

But we needed to make a stand, Mancini is the boss simple as, and the players need to understand that and take his decisions on the chin. If they dont like it they should speak with him in private and voice their concerns.

I am a Dzeko fan but was disgusted in the way he reacted in Munich and this I believe encouraged Tevez to act up.

As Mancini said "this is the last time someone does this" it is not acceptable in any job.

Mancini has had enough of petulance and has acted to stamp this out.

I believe City will be more professional from now on and it will be a long time before we see anything like this happening again at our club (Apart from Balotelli ;0)

 

[mancity1]

We'll end up selling him for some stupid knock down price in Jan.

We couldn't sell him for the stupid made-up 40 million one in the summer.

So...if he goes for 25 million is that knock-down if you couldn't get any more for him in the first place?

He wants to leave. Will do anything to leave, so the soon we all accept it and get the fuck on with it we can get down to business of finishing above the rags.

Hard to disagree with logic like that.

 

[flb]

Yes it was, but noone knew what was really going on. It's not just the admitting of it that's the problem, it's the statement that he'll never play for us again which gives the club no room for maneuvre.

And if you think this has strengthened Mancini's position you're deluded. What do you think Abu Dhabi think about this? It's another fallout, another ton of cash wasted on a player the manager can't get on with. It's further evidence of a disunited squad and further bad publicity for Manchester City, this time on a world level.

If we keep winning he's bombproof, but he leaves himself wide open if the results start to go tits up if you ask me.

It's worth remembering the squad worship Tevez too.

Wheres the evidence that the squad worship tevez dave? Why should cunts like him be given more holidays than other team mates and turn up for pre-season later than everybody else for the past three seasons?

Mancini has tried in his own words to accomodate him for the past two seasons-its not worked,with a player yet again he didnt sign.

Theres only one person who has shamed the people in Abu Dhabi and its Tevez.

Richards in today's Guardian interview. Bellamy when he did the summarising on ESPN of our Fulham away game. It's obvious the squad respect him immensely. That's not to say they don't want him gone after he's reiterated his desire to leave.

Look, I'm not defending Tevez. I'm questioning the manager going public that he'll never play for City again. It was a daft decision, nothing will dissauade me of that fact.

Certain Richards has already said he was immense LAST season but has got it wrong in what hes done.

Bellamy,well Bellamy is in the same mould as Tevez,hes also caused shit at every club hes been at.

I wonder? Has Bellamy's mum ever stopped on holiday in Buenos Aeries?<br /><br />-- Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:50 pm --<br /><br />

Maybe with have diminished his re-sale value maybe we are being dragged through the mire again.

But we needed to make a stand, Mancini is the boss simple as, and the players need to understand that and take his decisions on the chin. If they dont like it they should speak with him in private and voice their concerns.

I am a Dzeko fan but was disgusted in the way he reacted in Munich and this I believe encouraged Tevez to act up.

As Mancini said "this is the last time someone does this" it is not acceptable in any job.

Mancini has had enough of petulance and has acted to stamp this out.

I believe City will be more professional from now on and it will be a long time before we see anything like this happening again at our club (Apart from Balotelli ;0)

Totally agree,in fact i'd go as far to say its a tipping point (you listening Fbloke!) in the way players perceive MCFC,including the players already at the club.