Now Kia is having a go at Mancini

[Didsbury Dave]

It was mentioned in game, can't remember exactly what was said but I remember the commentators definitely touched on it. Words to effect of "there's clearly an argument going on at the man city bench" (camera's then cut to the bench showing Tevez wave the back of his hand in the direction of Mancini who in turn was finger pointing back). TV absolutely knew something had gone off, and it was inevitable they were going to question RM about it. Why shouldn't he answer the question with honesty. Its appeared clear to all, despite the backtracking since, that Tevez refused to come off the bench. Mancini was right to make it clear to all that such an act of insubordination will not be tolerated on his watch. Sadly for you Dave, it seems to have strengthened his position.

Yes it was, but noone knew what was really going on. It's not just the admitting of it that's the problem, it's the statement that he'll never play for us again which gives the club no room for maneuvre.

And if you think this has strengthened Mancini's position you're deluded. What do you think Abu Dhabi think about this? It's another fallout, another ton of cash wasted on a player the manager can't get on with. It's further evidence of a disunited squad and further bad publicity for Manchester City, this time on a world level.

If we keep winning he's bombproof, but he leaves himself wide open if the results start to go tits up if you ask me.

It's worth remembering the squad worship Tevez too.

 

[sbm]

Carlos should have been out in the summer. City partly to blame in all this as we set an unrealistic price and pretty much forced him to stay. Big mistake.

Now that I do agree with. Noone comes out of this with much credit. We're still a shambles at times I'm afraid.

Oh well, Typical City never dies, we just get bigger.

On June 19th, 2011, Didsbury Dave wrote:

"Tevez is the best player we have had at this club in a generation. Anyone with city's interests at heart will be delighted if he stays." [emphasis added]

On 30th September, Didsbury Dave wrote:
"Why the fuck is Tevez still at the club after all the problems he's caused? Someone with sense would have seen this coming a mile off."

 

[oakiecokie]

Absolutely correct. Mancini blew the story worldwide. It would hardly have been noticed otherwise.

Sorry Dave i disagree,the little **** undermimed Mancini on the biggest stage-and by all accounts its not the only time on the touchline hes shown his contempt.

Mancini had every right to call the **** out and to say it would have hardly been noticed if he had said nothing is wrong-the dressing room would have suffered so why should Mancini pacify a player who to be frank is fucking bad news.

Hes had plenty of chances to knuckle down under Mancinis regime-hes caused trouble at EVERY single club hes played at.

Come on dave FFS,your not 100% behind Mancini but give some credit for waht hes did on that night-he called out the little shit,and rightly so.

I'm not defending Tevez one bit, flb. But the whole thing stinks a bit. I can't say Mancini did the right thing coz I don't think he did. There is not one advantage to going public like that, not one. He should have kept his mouth shut and dealt with it behind closed doors.

We'll end up selling him for some stupid knock down price in Jan. Whichever club he fancies will get the deal of the century. FPP is round the corner, this does not help City one bit.

And we looked like fucking clowns in the international media yet again.[/quote]

Don`t talk stupid !!
We seem to be getting more media support and from Sky,with Kia once again spouting shite,but being shown he his a liar.

 

[moomba]

And we looked like fucking clowns in the international media yet again.

I have to say our response from that moment has been exceptional, professional and a credit to the club.

We look strong, honest, and full of integrity on this issue. We are getting praise on our handling on it from the bulk of a media that is never slow to put the knife in.

 

[mancity1]

No what I meant Moomba is Tevez's petulance and antics finally left Fergie with the conclusion it was better that he leave the club.

Why did the rags release a press statement saying that they made an offer to buy Tevez and make him one of the highest paid players at the club then?

I don't have a link Moomba and I will understand if you have some degree of doubt when I say I do have a vivid recollection of Whisky Face saying they did and could afford to match our offer transfer fee wise ( the fee was never actually stated by whisky nose ) but that they couldn't and wouldn't even if they could match our wages.

Figures quoted have varied the fee from 25 mill to 25.5 mill but thats incidental.

What do I really think well its only my opinion but a friend of mine who knows Fergie who has had dinner with his wife and kids at his home on several occasions before returning to Australia told me that he had enough of Tevez trying to make what he called childish attempts to usurp his authority and was more than happy with the strikeforce he had without Tevez so he wasn't too fussed when we came in for him.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

You're absolutely correct DD. We should have tried to keep the whole thing away from the media. In order to protect the little twat.

We paid approximately £25mill for him and will surely get something similar in January.

The big difference to me between posters like DD and Mancini is that RM views city as a big club that deserve professional respect whilst DD seems to still be clinging to the mindset of the past. IE: players like tevez are doing US a favour by agreeing to.play for us and the club should be grateful.

We're not little old city anymore and I for one am glad.

You need to get over your irrational hatred of Mancini mate, it's making you wallow in our last when you should be looking forward to our future.

 

[blue-al]

Mancini was an idiot for opening his mouth to the press in the heat of battle. Whilst I don't like him at all, the one thing Kia is right about is that most top managers keep things in house. Don't give the media the excuse to run with it and drag the club's name through the mire, and don't back yourself into a corner. That's what he did and Abu Dhabi of course have no choice but to back him.

He's a hothead and doesn't always think through the repercussions of his actions. Whipping Balotelli off the field in the USA was another example of this.

I have read a few of the people on this forum in regard to this issue feel that Mancini should have not said what he did. But looking at the history of leaks coming out of the City camp, how would you look at this situation if Kia the snake did leak this at some point later to undermine Mancini and the club?

Would the same people feel he did the right thing? Or then still feel he could have handled it better? It feels however he handled this situation he would not get the benefit of doubt...

This is not the first time Tevez has had issues with Mancini or the club, but its the first time Mancini has gone public with the issue.
Dont you think Mancini has been pretty flexible with Tevez and his situation last year?

 

[mancity1]

I was at the game so only got to watch the recording on Thursday after getting back from Munich.

At no point during the game did anyone say anything about him refusing to play.

It must have been mentioned during the game on SKY, long before the final whistle. I was also in Munich, and I knew with 15-20 minutes to go, as we were getting calls and texts from home, in fact a small section were singing the Herman Munster song in front of me long before the final whistle, people were pretty angry around where I was stood.

Shreeves on the ESPN feed I was watching said as much when Martin Tyler crossed to him.

 

[oakiecokie]

And we looked like fucking clowns in the international media yet again.

I have to say our response from that moment has been exceptional, professional and a credit to the club.

We look strong, honest, and full of integrity on this issue. We are getting praise on our handling on it from the bulk of a media that is never slow to put the knife in.

My sentiments entirely.Well said.
It appears that whatever Mancini did/said,the anti brigade like DD and co.will forever place the blame on our Manager.
In the heat of the moment I defy anyone not lose their composure,but Tevez had thought about his actions well in advance.

 

[moomba]

Yes it was, but noone knew what was really going on. It's not just the admitting of it that's the problem, it's the statement that he'll never play for us again which gives the club no room for maneuvre.

I don't want the club to manouvre on that stance.

And if you think this has strengthened Mancini's position you're deluded. What do you think Abu Dhabi think about this? It's another fallout, another ton of cash wasted on a player the manager can't get on with. It's further evidence of a disunited squad and further bad publicity for Manchester City, this time on a world level.

Bad publicity for Tevez alone. And I do believe it has strengthened Mancini's position at the club, both with the owners and the supporters.

If we keep winning he's bombproof, but he leaves himself wide open if the results start to go tits up if you ask me.

Same whether Tevez happened or not.

It's worth remembering the squad worship Tevez too.

Blackburn was a great result don't you think?