Obama

Ban-jani said:
So does that make it okay then?

I'm not "alt-right" at all.

Criticising Obama could realistically come from someone very left wing. Obama is on the right of the Tory Party which people fucking fail to see.

Calling someone far-right for criticising one thing a president has said is, quite frankly, fucking thick mate.
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Correct.

Obama...Bush junior...Clinton...Bush senior. All the same side of politics. Ironically the last even half way revolutionary president was old Ronnie.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Hmmmm, what to think?

BimboBob, on an Internet forum, telling me that Obama...leader of the free world for the last eight years, having helped bring the global economy back from the brink...is "all talk and no trousers."

The internet never disappoints. Well done, sir.
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Leader of what now? Leader of a Un-united States who's very banking system helped cause all the global economy to fuck up in the first place. Did he jail anyone? Erm...nope. Did any government officials do anything? Oh wait...a few of them got cushy high paid jobs on wall street. Aaaah.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
"Utter disgrace"???!

Ah, now I get it....hyperbole is your stock in trade. My mistake. You're right, of course...I'M the fucking thick one!

Carry on.
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ChicagoBlue said:
"Utter disgrace"???!

Ah, now I get it....hyperbole is your stock in trade. My mistake. You're right, of course...I'M the fucking thick one!

Carry on.
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Yes utter disgrace. He had no right to say that to try and influence another country's democratic referendum.

Just as our politicians had no right to comment on who they would back in the US election.

Now are you going to come up with a reason why he was okay to comment or are you going to carry on not making a point?
 
Ban-jani said:
Yes utter disgrace. He had no right to say that to try and influence another country's democratic referendum.

Just as our politicians had no right to comment on who they would back in the US election.

Now are you going to come up with a reason why he was okay to comment or are you going to carry on not making a point?
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What you mean like Nigel Farage??
 
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
What the fuck is he then mate??

Wasnt he the temporary leader of the third most popular political party in Britain, at the time of the election? Whether you agree with the **** or not its fair to say he is a politician.
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He wasn't an official in our government though so his opinions can't be viewed as that of our country.

I said I still didn't feel he should have got involved but it would have been far worse if Theresa May did what Farage did.
 
Ban-jani said:
He wasn't an official in our government though so his opinions can't be viewed as that of our country.

I said I still didn't feel he should have got involved but it would have been far worse if Theresa May did what Farage did.
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He was still a politician though. Agreed it would have been worse if May had got involved.

I still dont think what Obama said swayed many people's vote, certainly nobody that I knew or spoke to said they voted one way or the other because of Obama.
 
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
He was still a politician though. Agreed it would have been worse if May had got involved.

I still dont think what Obama said swayed many people's vote, certainly nobody that I knew or spoke to said they voted one way or the other because of Obama.
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I actually can't recall whether he was stand in UKIP leader at the time to be honest with you but my point was that he wasn't in parliament at the time. I agree with you that Farage shouldn't have got involved though.

I think it was very wrong of him whether he swayed votes or not. It may not have been the sole reason did but many remain voters I've spoken to used Obama as a point of argument.
 
Well they had that woman for a few weeks and have only just appointed the new leader, he was interim leader when they had nobody else and lets face it, Farage is just about the only UKIP politician everyone knows (with the exception of Barnsley Councillor Wayne Kerr of course).

I think Obama should have stayed out of it but as I stated earlier in the thread, but once he was asked about it, it was diplomatic of him to back what the leaders of just about every EU nation wanted, which was for us to remain, wouldnt be prudent of him to upset every major European politician by saying otherwise.
 
Ban-jani said:
He wasn't an official in our government though so his opinions can't be viewed as that of our country.

I said I still didn't feel he should have got involved but it would have been far worse if Theresa May did what Farage did.
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As a Member of the European Parliament I think it's fair to call him a politician whether he was the leader of UKIP or not at the time.
 
west didsblue said:
As a Member of the European Parliament I think it's fair to call him a politician whether he was the leader of UKIP or not at the time.
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Was he at the time of the US election though? If so fair enough but I still stand by my point that he wasn't in our government so him getting involved over there isn't as bad as if say May or Johnson did.

I still don't agree with him doing it mind you.
 
Ban-jani said:
Was he at the time of the US election though? If so fair enough but I still stand by my point that he wasn't in our government so him getting involved over there isn't as bad as if say May or Johnson did.

I still don't agree with him doing it mind you.
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Yes. Since 1999 and still is until we leave. He's actually the chairman of the EFDD group in Strasbourg.
 
Ban-jani said:
Was he at the time of the US election though? If so fair enough but I still stand by my point that he wasn't in our government so him getting involved over there isn't as bad as if say May or Johnson did.

I still don't agree with him doing it mind you.
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Yes and he still is
 
Ban-jani said:
Yes utter disgrace. He had no right to say that to try and influence another country's democratic referendum.

Just as our politicians had no right to comment on who they would back in the US election.

Now are you going to come up with a reason why he was okay to comment or are you going to carry on not making a point?
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Errr...freedom? Is free speech a good enough reason?

If not, how about he felt that as the country with whom the US has a "special friendship," He felt that maintaining an open ECONOMIC border with Europe was better for that relationship?

Open your mind, man, and understand that until the shock of Brexit actually happening, it was a very normal, widespread, cosmopolitan belief. It wasn't exactly going out on a limb to suggest that maintaining a strong economic link with the continent was a good thing....unless, of course, you were blinkered to the fact.

And, FWIW, I was in favor of Brexit. I think sovereignty comes before closer economic ties, and if the cost of such ties is the loss of sovereignty, then it is too high of a price....just as I thought maintaining one's own currency and not joining the Euro was a good thing years ago. Hard to be independent when someone in another country controls your fiscal policies.
 
BimboBob said:
Leader of what now? Leader of a Un-united States who's very banking system helped cause all the global economy to fuck up in the first place. Did he jail anyone? Erm...nope. Did any government officials do anything? Oh wait...a few of them got cushy high paid jobs on wall street. Aaaah.
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1) You heard.
2) It's called the law.
3) Dodd Frank

Sorry it didn't all go down like your Bolschy opinion appears to think it should have, but that doesn't negate what he did do in office...even if you think it does.

Is there some pol that you have liked better over the last decade? That has done better?
 
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