Offside judgement (Laporte v Wolves)

[Paladin]

no - that's nowhere near where the new rule states offside begins. It's at the shirt sleeve or upper arm, not the shoulder. Rules. Offside by the rules. Get over it

It's all subjective anyway. Some players wear long sleeves. How do they decide in their cases? They just randomly decide a place where the upper arm starts.

I don't think Laporte's goal should have been cancelled, but it doesn't matter in the final reckoning, today at least. It would have mattered if the game finished 1-1 though.

In black and white decisions like that, there should be consistency. All too often, the authorities favour the underdogs (or the favoured team for that particular season). Being generous, this could be attributed to natural bias.

 

[Blu3m00n91]

no - that's nowhere near where the new rule states offside begins. It's at the shirt sleeve or upper arm, not the shoulder. Rules. Offside by the rules. Get over it

Exactly so it’s more to the point that the rules are stupid cause you can’t score with your upper arm they’d take the goal away.

 

[Brewster's millions]

I’m still wondering where the same scrutiny was given when Salah scored against us last season!

Too right - think we got a two second replay from the worst camera angle and then the quickest restart on record.

And then Klopp has the temerity to complain about decisions this season. Shameless.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

the rules state it was offside.
it was offside.
If the rules are wrong, that's a bigger debate.

As soon as the lino flags - it becomes a case of clear and obvious error. That wasn't a clear and obvious error.

Thanks I’ve learned something tonight.

If VAR is only to over turn clear and obvious errors I’m not sure why they need to draw the lines and all that but there you go. Once the Lino has put their flag up you could just take a quick glance and say “tight that, can see why the Lino called it offside. No goal”

To be honest I dont think the premier league’s VAR protocol is particularly clear

VAR: Offsides explained

www.premierleague.com

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Clear and obvious not an issue for offsides. We are told they are black and white decisions. Binary. Off or on

Well yeah, that was some bullshit they came up with afterwards even though they don't have the technology to back it up. But VAR was first sold to us as a way of eliminating glaring errors.

 

[Bluearmy]

the rules state it was offside.
it was offside.
If the rules are wrong, that's a bigger debate.

As soon as the lino flags - it becomes a case of clear and obvious error. That wasn't a clear and obvious error.

No clear and obvious on Line calls

 

[chaddblue]

Look at the ball! The picture is a split second after Bernardo makes initial contact as the ball is behind the top of his head

it’s a fuckin joke. There’s so many factors involved in decisions like this that are complete guesswork

 

[oddfellows]

This is an argument I can get behind. Until they’re running “offside cameras” at much higher frame rates and showing us the frame before and after (like cricket) then they need to allow a much bigger margin of error.

Holland already does with an “umpires call” type of solution.

But both linos gave them offside today and at least var gave us one back. Without it we score one less.

Its still fucking guesswork tbf.

 

[BigOscar]

So if I read the rules right, if we switch to those Cameroon world cup shirts without any sleeves, we can be half a foot further forwards without being offside? We're missing a trick here

 

[Metalartin]

The purple line is half way dow his arm

Is it not also leaning to left a bit too or is it just a trick of the eye? Well BT weren't wrong when they said other teams have had those, I just get the feeling they wouldn't have bothered chalking it off if we'd already have been 2-0 up. Who would have complained if that was ruled onside in all seriousness?