kun said:
daxman said:
On pure ballskills, vision, trickery, change of pace and passing ability. He shits on 95% of the league. This alone though, does not guarantee success in the league. He will have to deal with the new environs, a new philosophy, perhaps language, the weather and physicality of the league. Now all these other factor will play as important a role as his talent.
But for anyone to claim he is not talented enough to play in the league is just plain silly. You couldn't put together a list of 10 players with better vision and pure passing ability in the PL. And that is a fact.
David Silva: Yes
Juan Mata: Yes
Santi Cazorla: Maybe
Mesut Ozil: Yes
Philippe Coutinho: No
Chrisian Eriksen: No
Yaya Toure: No
Jack Wilshere: Maybe
Frank Lampard: No
Oscar: No
Eden Hazard: No
Oh shit that's 11
The guys above are almost all better footballers. But better vision and better passers? Absolutely not. It is interesting that 2 of the players on your list haven't played a single minute in the PL yet, which should tell you a lot about how talented a passer Omar is. You had to stretch it. And fukking Lampard? Are you having a laugh.
Look, youtube might not be able to tell you who a good player is. But it can clearly tell you who shows consistent vision, trickery, and passing ability. You just go and search for the passing and vision skills of the players you have just listed, and come back to tell me if you see anything close to what Omar exhibits in his league, at the Olym;pics or at the Asian cup. You simply wouldn't find it.
David SIlva: Yes, we have seen immaculate vision from him
Mata: Yes, we have seen consistent vision from him. Nothing as esquisite as what we've seen from of Omar, but he plays at a higher level so perhaps its harder.
Carzola: Maybe, see Mata. Intelligent player, moves the ball around well, but doesn't show the field vision Omar does.
Ozil: Yes, we have seen immaculate vision on a consistent basis from him.
Coutihno: No. He is good with the ball at his feet. Can beat a man, and can tailor a pass, but one of his bg problems at inter was his penchant for trying to go it alone. He does not have the vision of Omar.
Eriksen: Nope. Again, see Coutihno. Great individual talent. But slicing magnificent passes all over the field, is not his greatest strenght.
Yaya Toure: Fantastic specimen. Great at controlling the game and dishing out crossfield passes to wide open players on the weakside. But splitting multiple defenders with thru balls? Sorry, that simply is not an area Yaya is superior to Omar in.
Lampard: No, Close. he is one of the most intelligent English players, but his vision is still inferior to Omars.
Jack Wilshere: Now, this is close. Jack is a phenomenal field marshall, and his consistency makes him quite close. I'd say this is a tossup. Omar has more mouth droppers, but Wilshere is a better allround field controller. So Maybe!
Oscar: No. Not as a passer of the ball. Oscar's greatest strength is his intelligence "off-the-ball", I'd rate him and Nasri, as i and 2 in the league at moving without the ball. But he is not a prolific passer by any stretch of the imagination. So No. Omar is better.
Eden Hazard: Again No. Clearly a superior footballer, better dribbler, better big game player, but simply not a better passer, and clearly does not have Omar's vision.
Just simply listing the best players in the league wouldn't cut it. Ronaldo is the 2nd best player in the world today, yet he wouldn't rank in the top 20 passers in La Liga. Passing and VIsion is a unique skill. SImply being a better player, doesn't make you better at it.
Omar shits on 95% of the league at it. He played against some of the best at the Olympics, and no one was close. He simply is a unique passer of the ball.