Omar Abdulrahman

daxman said:
lost_n_spaced said:
MSP said:
Agree completely too.. he might not make it in Premier League, you never know that, muchmore known players who made it in some big european leagues failed to do it but to claim categorically that he is not good enough for PL is plain stupid thing to do.

He is as talented as Silva with ball and passing and takes better penalties :D

Absolute joy to watch, one of those noble players you don't see often these days. The way he notices a movement of his teammates and the way he sends those long balls to them is mind boggling, as kneville said it he has monster football brain.

I'll tell you what is a plain stupid thing to do........ to claim that he is as talented as Silva........!!!

I'll just go with the weight of footballing scouting opinion that has decided that he has been left in the UAE until now (even by teams that come from countries with more relaxed work permit regulations), rather than going with some scientologist like brainwash that laughably claims he is as good as one of our greatest players ever.
On pure ballskills, vision, trickery, change of pace and passing ability. He shits on 95% of the league. This alone though, does not guarantee success in the league. He will have to deal with the new environs, a new philosophy, perhaps language, the weather and physicality of the league. Now all these other factor will play as important a role as his talent.

But for anyone to claim he is not talented enough to play in the league is just plain silly. You couldn't put together a list of 10 players with better vision and pure passing ability in the PL. And that is a fact.
David Silva
Juan Mata
Santi Cazorla
Mesut Ozil
Philippe Coutinho
Chrisian Eriksen
Yaya Toure
Jack Wilshere
Frank Lampard
Oscar
Eden Hazard

Oh shit that's 11
 
Gareth Barry Manilow said:
daxman said:
lost_n_spaced said:
I'll tell you what is a plain stupid thing to do........ to claim that he is as talented as Silva........!!!

I'll just go with the weight of footballing scouting opinion that has decided that he has been left in the UAE until now (even by teams that come from countries with more relaxed work permit regulations), rather than going with some scientologist like brainwash that laughably claims he is as good as one of our greatest players ever.
On pure ballskills, vision, trickery, change of pace and passing ability. He shits on 95% of the league. This alone though, does not guarantee success in the league. He will have to deal with the new environs, a new philosophy, perhaps language, the weather and physicality of the league. Now all these other factor will play as important a role as his talent.

But for anyone to claim he is not talented enough to play in the league is just plain silly. You couldn't put together a list of 10 players with better vision and pure passing ability in the PL. And that is a fact.

No it isn't.
Humor me with your list of 10 then :)
 
kun said:
daxman said:
lost_n_spaced said:
I'll tell you what is a plain stupid thing to do........ to claim that he is as talented as Silva........!!!

I'll just go with the weight of footballing scouting opinion that has decided that he has been left in the UAE until now (even by teams that come from countries with more relaxed work permit regulations), rather than going with some scientologist like brainwash that laughably claims he is as good as one of our greatest players ever.
On pure ballskills, vision, trickery, change of pace and passing ability. He shits on 95% of the league. This alone though, does not guarantee success in the league. He will have to deal with the new environs, a new philosophy, perhaps language, the weather and physicality of the league. Now all these other factor will play as important a role as his talent.

But for anyone to claim he is not talented enough to play in the league is just plain silly. You couldn't put together a list of 10 players with better vision and pure passing ability in the PL. And that is a fact.
David Silva: Yes
Juan Mata: Yes
Santi Cazorla: Maybe
Mesut Ozil: Yes
Philippe Coutinho: No
Chrisian Eriksen: No
Yaya Toure: No
Jack Wilshere: Maybe
Frank Lampard: No
Oscar: No
Eden Hazard: No

Oh shit that's 11

The guys above are almost all better footballers. But better vision and better passers? Absolutely not. It is interesting that 2 of the players on your list haven't played a single minute in the PL yet, which should tell you a lot about how talented a passer Omar is. You had to stretch it. And fukking Lampard? Are you having a laugh.

Look, youtube might not be able to tell you who a good player is. But it can clearly tell you who shows consistent vision, trickery, and passing ability. You just go and search for the passing and vision skills of the players you have just listed, and come back to tell me if you see anything close to what Omar exhibits in his league, at the Olym;pics or at the Asian cup. You simply wouldn't find it.

David SIlva: Yes, we have seen immaculate vision from him
Mata: Yes, we have seen consistent vision from him. Nothing as esquisite as what we've seen from of Omar, but he plays at a higher level so perhaps its harder.
Carzola: Maybe, see Mata. Intelligent player, moves the ball around well, but doesn't show the field vision Omar does.
Ozil: Yes, we have seen immaculate vision on a consistent basis from him.
Coutihno: No. He is good with the ball at his feet. Can beat a man, and can tailor a pass, but one of his bg problems at inter was his penchant for trying to go it alone. He does not have the vision of Omar.
Eriksen: Nope. Again, see Coutihno. Great individual talent. But slicing magnificent passes all over the field, is not his greatest strenght.
Yaya Toure: Fantastic specimen. Great at controlling the game and dishing out crossfield passes to wide open players on the weakside. But splitting multiple defenders with thru balls? Sorry, that simply is not an area Yaya is superior to Omar in.
Lampard: No, Close. he is one of the most intelligent English players, but his vision is still inferior to Omars.
Jack Wilshere: Now, this is close. Jack is a phenomenal field marshall, and his consistency makes him quite close. I'd say this is a tossup. Omar has more mouth droppers, but Wilshere is a better allround field controller. So Maybe!
Oscar: No. Not as a passer of the ball. Oscar's greatest strength is his intelligence "off-the-ball", I'd rate him and Nasri, as i and 2 in the league at moving without the ball. But he is not a prolific passer by any stretch of the imagination. So No. Omar is better.
Eden Hazard: Again No. Clearly a superior footballer, better dribbler, better big game player, but simply not a better passer, and clearly does not have Omar's vision.

Just simply listing the best players in the league wouldn't cut it. Ronaldo is the 2nd best player in the world today, yet he wouldn't rank in the top 20 passers in La Liga. Passing and VIsion is a unique skill. SImply being a better player, doesn't make you better at it.

Omar shits on 95% of the league at it. He played against some of the best at the Olympics, and no one was close. He simply is a unique passer of the ball.
 
daxman said:
kun said:
daxman said:
On pure ballskills, vision, trickery, change of pace and passing ability. He shits on 95% of the league. This alone though, does not guarantee success in the league. He will have to deal with the new environs, a new philosophy, perhaps language, the weather and physicality of the league. Now all these other factor will play as important a role as his talent.

But for anyone to claim he is not talented enough to play in the league is just plain silly. You couldn't put together a list of 10 players with better vision and pure passing ability in the PL. And that is a fact.
David Silva: Yes
Juan Mata: Yes
Santi Cazorla: Maybe
Mesut Ozil: Yes
Philippe Coutinho: No
Chrisian Eriksen: No
Yaya Toure: No
Jack Wilshere: Maybe
Frank Lampard: No
Oscar: No
Eden Hazard: No

Oh shit that's 11

The guys above are almost all better footballers. But better vision and better passers? Absolutely not. It is interesting that 2 of the players on your list haven't played a single minute in the PL yet, which should tell you a lot about how talented a passer Omar is. You had to stretch it. And fukking Lampard? Are you having a laugh.

Look, youtube might not be able to tell you who a good player is. But it can clearly tell you who shows consistent vision, trickery, and passing ability. You just go and search for the passing and vision skills of the players you have just listed, and come back to tell me if you see anything close to what Omar exhibits in his league, at the Olym;pics or at the Asian cup. You simply wouldn't find it.

David SIlva: Yes, we have seen immaculate vision from him
Mata: Yes, we have seen consistent vision from him. Nothing as esquisite as what we've seen from of Omar, but he plays at a higher level so perhaps its harder.
Carzola: Maybe, see Mata. Intelligent player, moves the ball around well, but doesn't show the field vision Omar does.
Ozil: Yes, we have seen immaculate vision on a consistent basis from him.
Coutihno: No. He is good with the ball at his feet. Can beat a man, and can tailor a pass, but one of his bg problems at inter was his penchant for trying to go it alone. He does not have the vision of Omar.
Eriksen: Nope. Again, see Coutihno. Great individual talent. But slicing magnificent passes all over the field, is not his greatest strenght.
Yaya Toure: Fantastic specimen. Great at controlling the game and dishing out crossfield passes to wide open players on the weakside. But splitting multiple defenders with thru balls? Sorry, that simply is not an area Yaya is superior to Omar in.
Lampard: No, Close. he is one of the most intelligent English players, but his vision is still inferior to Omars.
Jack Wilshere: Now, this is close. Jack is a phenomenal field marshall, and his consistency makes him quite close. I'd say this is a tossup. Omar has more mouth droppers, but Wilshere is a better allround field controller. So Maybe!
Oscar: No. Not as a passer of the ball. Oscar's greatest strength is his intelligence "off-the-ball", I'd rate him and Nasri, as i and 2 in the league at moving without the ball. But he is not a prolific passer by any stretch of the imagination. So No. Omar is better.
Eden Hazard: Again No. Clearly a superior footballer, better dribbler, better big game player, but simply not a better passer, and clearly does not have Omar's vision.

Just simply listing the best players in the league wouldn't cut it. Ronaldo is the 2nd best player in the world today, yet he wouldn't rank in the top 20 passers in La Liga. Passing and VIsion is a unique skill. SImply being a better player, doesn't make you better at it.

Omar shits on 95% of the league at it. He played against some of the best at the Olympics, and no one was close. He simply is a unique passer of the ball.

.......who, despite him being no secret to anyone, NO-ONE here or in the rest of Europe has seen fit to pay money for, despite his club - Al-Ain - being willing to sell.

I ain't saying he's no good, just that your estimation of the playing is massively overtalked given what he has achieved in his career so far (and the environment in which he has played), especially when compared to other young players who have played abroad for some time and who are regular fixtures in the CL & EL.

When he does that, you can talk, but right now I see a player who you are saying is world class, but who no-one outside of the UAE thinks is quite good enough to take a chance on.
 
daxman said:
kun said:
daxman said:
On pure ballskills, vision, trickery, change of pace and passing ability. He shits on 95% of the league. This alone though, does not guarantee success in the league. He will have to deal with the new environs, a new philosophy, perhaps language, the weather and physicality of the league. Now all these other factor will play as important a role as his talent.

But for anyone to claim he is not talented enough to play in the league is just plain silly. You couldn't put together a list of 10 players with better vision and pure passing ability in the PL. And that is a fact.
David Silva: Yes
Juan Mata: Yes
Santi Cazorla: Maybe
Mesut Ozil: Yes
Philippe Coutinho: No
Chrisian Eriksen: No
Yaya Toure: No
Jack Wilshere: Maybe
Frank Lampard: No
Oscar: No
Eden Hazard: No

Oh shit that's 11

The guys above are almost all better footballers. But better vision and better passers? Absolutely not. It is interesting that 2 of the players on your list haven't played a single minute in the PL yet, which should tell you a lot about how talented a passer Omar is. You had to stretch it. And fukking Lampard? Are you having a laugh.

Look, youtube might not be able to tell you who a good player is. But it can clearly tell you who shows consistent vision, trickery, and passing ability. You just go and search for the passing and vision skills of the players you have just listed, and come back to tell me if you see anything close to what Omar exhibits in his league, at the Olym;pics or at the Asian cup. You simply wouldn't find it.

David SIlva: Yes, we have seen immaculate vision from him
Mata: Yes, we have seen consistent vision from him. Nothing as esquisite as what we've seen from of Omar, but he plays at a higher level so perhaps its harder.
Carzola: Maybe, see Mata. Intelligent player, moves the ball around well, but doesn't show the field vision Omar does.
Ozil: Yes, we have seen immaculate vision on a consistent basis from him.
Coutihno: No. He is good with the ball at his feet. Can beat a man, and can tailor a pass, but one of his bg problems at inter was his penchant for trying to go it alone. He does not have the vision of Omar.
Eriksen: Nope. Again, see Coutihno. Great individual talent. But slicing magnificent passes all over the field, is not his greatest strenght.
Yaya Toure: Fantastic specimen. Great at controlling the game and dishing out crossfield passes to wide open players on the weakside. But splitting multiple defenders with thru balls? Sorry, that simply is not an area Yaya is superior to Omar in.
Lampard: No, Close. he is one of the most intelligent English players, but his vision is still inferior to Omars.
Jack Wilshere: Now, this is close. Jack is a phenomenal field marshall, and his consistency makes him quite close. I'd say this is a tossup. Omar has more mouth droppers, but Wilshere is a better allround field controller. So Maybe!
Oscar: No. Not as a passer of the ball. Oscar's greatest strength is his intelligence "off-the-ball", I'd rate him and Nasri, as i and 2 in the league at moving without the ball. But he is not a prolific passer by any stretch of the imagination. So No. Omar is better.
Eden Hazard: Again No. Clearly a superior footballer, better dribbler, better big game player, but simply not a better passer, and clearly does not have Omar's vision.

Just simply listing the best players in the league wouldn't cut it. Ronaldo is the 2nd best player in the world today, yet he wouldn't rank in the top 20 passers in La Liga. Passing and VIsion is a unique skill. SImply being a better player, doesn't make you better at it.

Omar shits on 95% of the league at it. He played against some of the best at the Olympics, and no one was close. He simply is a unique passer of the ball.

Uhhhh...Yaya's defence splitting balls have lead to many goals for us... :S
 
TonyM said:
As I said earlier I'd be disappointed if he was signed by another Premiership club but the trouble is that he's an attacking player and right now we have 2 players for each of the 4 attacking roles....

Aguero, Jovetic
Dzeko, Negredo
Silva, Nasri
Navas, Milner

Maybe the ideal scenario is that he signs for us and we loan him to Arsenal where we can see if he can compete with any of the above???

I really hope we sign this guy. His vision, passing, creativity would make him the ideal apprentice & replacement for Silva.

Nasri for me doesn't have anything like the vision/creativity needed when Silva is missing. What Nasri has is great off ball movement and good ball retention. But with ball he's normally just a dip of the shoulder, then a neat but safe pass side/backwards. He isn't a playmaker like Silva/Omar, and it's all too noticeable that without Silva our neat passing lacks that final, killer through ball all too often.
 
Al Ain and UAE star Omar Abdulrahman looks set to cap a fairytale 18 months with a place amongst a World XI side taking on Brazil at the end of the year.

The 21-year-old playmaker, interesting the likes of Arsenal and Manchester City, has been extended an invitation to take part in the glamour tie at the Maracana in Rio De Janeiro in December,.

With players like Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and Franck Ribery expected to lineup for the Rest of the World, Abdulrahman will be in exulted company, provided his club, Al Ain, accept the invitation.

The Boss have yet to decide whether to allow their star man to jet across the world for a friendly game during the season, but the player has pleaded with his employers to let him play.

“I hope the management approves my trip to Brazil, as this is an opportunity that won’t come again,” said Abdulrahman, who inspired the UAE to Gulf Cup success in January.

“My desire is to attract the world’s attention to the unmarked Arab world and highlight its ability to produce professional players outside developed footballing countries.

“I am confident that the club will not mind my trip, especially given the star names involved and the honour and happiness it gives Al Ain and the UAE national team.”

An appearance alongside the world’s finest would cap a meteoric rise for the playmaker, who was recently voted in Goal.com's Top 50 players of 2012-13.

After leading Al Ain to the Pro League title in 2012, Abdulrahman stole the show for the UAE Under-23 side at the London Olympic Games before enjoying a two-week trial at Manchester City.

The new season brought another league title as well as Player of the Tournament performance in the UAE’s successful Gulf Cup campaign.

Already this season, Abdulrahman has collected the best player gong at the inaugural OSN Cup, which the UAE won earlier this month to extend their current winning streak to 12 games - the best in international football
 
BringBackSwales said:
Did this guy not move to a European club in the last window then?
no that was some other kid, who some people mistaked for this guy ;)
 
For the amount of money we turnover in wages etc giving him a contract wouldn't particularly make much difference at all to our expenditure.

It would perhaps raise our profile in the UAE though but, if he fails as is probably likely, would it be counted productive for us? Maybe due to this its a gamble not worth taking.

The guys who are bigging him up to be better than 3/4 of the world greats need to get a grip.

if he was anything like they are portraying him he'd be in Europe now even if only at some Italian B side.
 

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