Open Letter on Season Tickets and Pricing | Club announce price freeze on "general admission season tickets & PL match tickets" for next season (p163)

johnnytapia said:
“Doesn’t feel like my club anymore.”
When, exactly, did it “feel like my club”?
What are your metrics?
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I can’t be arsed listing the many, many reasons because it’s late.

It felt like my club when I could take my son to watch City without having to remortgage the fucking house.

It felt like my club when I went to a match and there wasn’t an away fan with hair clippers or rag YouTubers sat in the home end.

It felt like my club before I was made to feel like an inconvenience to dickheads like Soriano because I don’t spend £200 in the club shop before filming the match on my iPad.

Is that enough to be going on with?
 
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Alex - City Matters said:
Apologies that I haven't been able to post earlier on the thread, particularly after today's news. It has been a long few days.

As Colin says above, the Club originally came in with a proposed increased aligned with CPI. They relented on this at last night's meeting. As far as I am aware, that's the first time that the Club have ever done so on a proposed price increase.

Since October, we have made it clear that our request was for season ticket prices to be reduced, or frozen at a bare minimum. That was supported by the several other fan groups that signed the open letter we published in February.

That said, the conversation is far from over. I don't consider the matchday pricing freeze to be a win, as such, given that they already outweighs the amounts charged at other clubs - let alone the prices for juniors. And there are a wide range of other issues to work on, such as the all games on sale policy.

Now clearly, I am not going to be in the room moving forward as my time on City Matters is up. But given that I / we haven't been able to achieve even a price freeze in recent seasons, it is slightly heartening to have achieved that at the end. And the effort of City Matters, wider fan groups and the supporter base at large has been critical in that process.
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What a shame you’re standing down. When is your definitive end date?
 
johnnytapia said:
They can see exactly how angry fans are. And, the numbers show, they’re not very angry. It’s not until they see vast, vast swathes of empty seats, aligned to a full-on German-fan-scale boycott that they’d be remotely arsed. Until then, (financially) rinse and repeat. And it’s the same for virtually every prem club.
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To be fair I do think the protest made a big difference and is the reason why prices were frozen.

The club clearly do care when pr and media isn’t going there way. The full scale boycott is only round the corner
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
To be fair I do think the protest made a big difference and is the reason why prices were frozen.

The club clearly do care when pr and media isn’t going there way. The full scale boycott is only round the corner
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Expect price increases elsewhere to make up for the 'freeze'.

The owners only care about maximising profits and the image of the City Group.

They don't give a shit who sits in the ground as long as they pay top money for tickets. I suspect they'd even scrap season tickets if they thought they'd get away with it in the media.
 
Lavinda Past said:
Expect price increases elsewhere to make up for the 'freeze'.

The owners only care about maximising profits and the image of the City Group.

They don't give a shit who sits in the ground as long as they pay top money for tickets. I suspect they'd even scrap season tickets if they thought they'd get away with it in the media.
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Scrap season tickets they wouldn't get 15k for Villa at home at those prices, that's why glam CL ties are often half the price of the Villa game. £35 as opposed to £71 in SS1.
 
The club should also be made to reassess Cityzens Matchday Membership. Having to pay a £35 fee for a chance to buy match tickets is not ethical especially when there is no guarantee of getting to see Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs. It's just another con to add to the £150 Flexi Gold fiddle. I don't think we are cheats regarding the 115 allegations but I think Cityzens Matchday and Flexi Gold members are being cheated out of hard earned money. I love the team and the club but I am beginning to despise the hierarchy. There is a complete disconnect between senior management and none hospitality fans.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
I think what this has shown is that we as fans can and do have a voice. For so many years now we’ve not had any group/s standing up for our fans and I think we might finally have that.

I believe this should be the start of something involving our fans. We shouldn’t just think it’s over though, as it’s clearly not with disgusting match day prices or the north stand.

It’s easier said then done, but I think those fan groups who did such a good job, should come together and form a supporters trust. We could then have one collective voice.
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True but without the protest that was clearly visible worldwide, picked up by all the media outlets and embarrassed the club, with the threat of further escalation, I doubt they would have listened. Next we have to sort out the ridiculous pricing for matchday tickets.
 
Corky said:
Scrap season tickets they wouldn't get 15k for Villa at home at those prices, that's why glam CL ties are often half the price of the Villa game. £35 as opposed to £71 in SS1.
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That's why they'll jump at joining a Super League at every opportunity. It will provide a chance to restructure ticketing prices, allocations etc through viagogo.

Football tourists probably put more money into top PL clubs more at one match than the average season ticket holder does all season.
 
Lavinda Past said:
That's why they'll jump at joining a Super League at every opportunity. It will provide a chance to restructure ticketing prices, allocations etc through viagogo.

Football tourists probably put more money into top PL clubs more at one match than the average season ticket holder does all season.
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That is very sad but also unfortunately so true. The business side of football just wants revenue and doesn't care about long time supporters.
 
uwerosler28 said:
It's lip service in the hope the anger dies down, multiple issues that generated the protests are still outstanding, sadly based on the multiple back slapping and congratulations posts on this forum its seems the club have suceeded in giving nothing yet still stopping the protest.
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A bit unfair even if right in principle. Nothing wrong with a bit of back slapping when something, anything is achieved in the face of obduracy.

Keep up pressure, certainly. Personally, I think this is all that could have been achieved at this time. Pressure from the owner to sort it out balanced with letting Soriano save face. Let's face it, Soriano is a management consultant, he won't do anything without expensive studies and surveys anyway. So, expect plenty of those before next season ....

When it happens, make sure you fill them in correctly, everybody. Maybe replies should be suggested on here so they get the right message often enough.
 
paulchapo said:
Yes I know it's a rag but it's still shameful and has happened here too.

www.bbc.co.uk

Man Utd fan protests: The 81-year-old fan being evicted from his seat

Michael Carney, 81, has been going to Old Trafford for 74 years but has to leave his seat near the dugout so Man Utd can make more money from it.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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That's a good move that we didn't do. Personalise it in the press. Stories of long-time blues who can't go, can't go where they want, can't sit next to people they have been going with long term, families that can't sit together.

Make it easy for the press.

One a week.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
This is absolutely true. Even after the Leicester protest the club originally came to the table at the meeting with City Matters last night with an initial proposal of a 2.8% average increase.

Un-fucking-believable.
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Tactical negotiation 101, of course. Start with something the other party won't accept and then settle for what you would have accepted in the first place anyway.

Still, at least people should know Soriano shows no good faith now. Fans shouldn't be seen as a hostile counter-party.
 
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Damocles said:
Again, I feel like some people aren't used to negotiating with people. They didn't come with a 2.8% rise expecting to leave with a 2.8% rise. They came in with a wild idea that they knew they could "benevolently acquiesce" on. City walked out with exactly or better than they wanted. Your opening salvo is not what you want in these situations, it's a ridiculous idea that you will abandon but you have to start as high as you can to get knocked down and appear to have "lost".
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Only this.
 
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