Operation 'ONE END' and Season Tickets....

Moving all the singing City fans to the north stand would be a bad move and just shifting the away fans over slightly is much easier.

And also i dont think anything will be done about this so its upto us and everybody else to just sing louder and perhaps get the guys in the east/west stands to join in!!!
 
coleridge said:
Diverse views, as is right. Mine is that the away fans should get the bottom tier at the corner of the South Stand and CB stand, similar to what we get at OT.

Obviously, they would be out of TV sight and would still be able to get to the coaches as they would come out under that Petrov poster. They should only given a couple of thousand seats on the hope that we can attract the extra 5-6k that we need to completely fill the ground. Seems simple to me but what do I know.

I really don't get this "keep them out of TV sight" thing either, it happens at too many grounds nowadays and I don't see why City should jump on this particular bandwagon, I see it as trying to condition people to expect just one set of fans in a stadium. The banter between home and away fans is crucial to a genuine football atmosphere.

And the away team have to be given around 3,000 seats if they want and that should not be reduced under any circumstances IMO.
 
lancs blue

With the greatest of respect, what you say is the past, along with the standing terraces that some cannot let go of.

This is what 'big clubs' do whether you like it or not.
 
coleridge said:
lancs blue

With the greatest of respect, what you say is the past, along with the standing terraces that some cannot let go of.

This is what 'big clubs' do whether you like it or not.

Oh I can let go of terraces no problem, filthy shitty places by and large they were. But if you don't have two sets of fans in the stadium you'll generally find that the atmosphere is rank.

I'll take the "big club" success without all the other crap if you don't mind.
 
It was very noticeable that there was a huge difference in the atmosphere when Forest filled the South stand for the Cup game , the same being true when Sheff Wednesday and Scunny did the same. As an oldie i am not likley to lead any singing but it would be good if we were to have an "end". IMHO that would set the tone for the rest of the ground.
i am aware of the fact that the Football Licensing Authority have a sanction if we do not cotrol the crowd to their satisfaction which is why the away fans are sited near their car park. However they could be sited in tier 3 at that end , and this could be accessed by the end spiral, or even a newly built separate one
 
lancs blue said:
coleridge said:
lancs blue

With the greatest of respect, what you say is the past, along with the standing terraces that some cannot let go of.

This is what 'big clubs' do whether you like it or not.

Oh I can let go of terraces no problem, filthy shitty places by and large they were. But if you don't have two sets of fans in the stadium you'll generally find that the atmosphere is rank.

I'll take the "big club" success without all the other crap if you don't mind.

My friend, I am afraid that it's all part of the Faustian pact along with changed KO times for Sky/Setanta. I admire your aspiration for a footballing idyll but I am too embittered by experience to expect such a purity. 'All the other crap' comes with the baggage at the top.
 
blueyorkie said:
It was very noticeable that there was a huge difference in the atmosphere when Forest filled the South stand for the Cup game , the same being true when Sheff Wednesday and Scunny did the same. As an oldie i am not likley to lead any singing but it would be good if we were to have an "end". IMHO that would set the tone for the rest of the ground.
i am aware of the fact that the Football Licensing Authority have a sanction if we do not cotrol the crowd to their satisfaction which is why the away fans are sited near their car park. However they could be sited in tier 3 at that end , and this could be accessed by the end spiral, or even a newly built separate one

Forrest, Sheff Wednesday and Scunny made some good noise. But it has little to do with where they were sat if you ask me. 3 pretty small clubs, playing a premeir league side. They will always be up for it.
 
I've posted a few times that the position of the away fans is not the issue (they were in the same position at maine road i.e between north and kippax) the issue is the design of the stand. The tiers are too small, the south stand should just be one big imposing tier, more like the North Stand used to be.
Someone mentioned earlier in the thread that if you moved the away fans, a lot of the fans who currently sit near them would probably move to whichever part of the stadium they were moved to. I know when I applied for my first season ticket I wanted to be near the away fans at Maine Road to sing at them and hurl abuse at them.

Great news about the season tickets aswell, good to see that the've proved all the rag loving papers wrong, especially the ones who thought that the owners would put the price of tickets up etc.
 
Having visited most away grounds, I think that City are one of the strictest about segregation of away fans around the ground, along with WBA and, to a lesser degree, Stoke. At Newcastle, you mix with the home fans under the stand and sit in the tier above. They keep the front row free and have stewards at the front. There's no great problem at any of the London grounds or the Merseyside ones.
 
The problem with many ideas/ suggestions is the quantity of the away fans and where to put them. Obviously we've got to give them a certain allocation but say you put them in the third tier, how do you get them in and out of the stadium without the home fans getting to them on the 2nd tier? Hmmm, bit of a problem. 2nd tier and 1st tier should be ours though is the arguement.

My suggestion is that there should be some sort of design where you can spread them from that big screen (where the top tier of away already are more or less) and give them the entire of that part. Again, it's how you get them up there without the home fans getting to them. That's the main factor. The problem being is if you moved them anyway, you'd reduce to the banter significantly between home and away which I'm sure people agree is part of the matchday experience.

Why not move one side of the 'singing section' in the north to start the atmosphere there and keep the remainder on the other side and thus I suspect either side would get started and the trend would follow probably. What do you think? I just think we should have the 1st tier definately.
 

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