Opposition view: Arsenal

Great article here from Prestwich Blue, 'Sugar Daddy' my arse ! "£50 million Mr Rioch ? Why, I don't mind if I do Mr Fiszman".

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Holloway Harry said:
Alright chaps. I expect you are getting quite a few of us looking oh here today. I thought I'd put my 2 pennies in. In regards to the poster asking why we are not making a stand, there is a group that was formed last year called the black scarf movement (named as black was the only colour Nike haven't used as a kit colour) and we had over 2000 people demonstrating before the Swansea game in December. It was all over the press, Sky sports etc even a German TV crew that got wind of us when Schalke beat us in the CL where there and the prices of tickets was one of the issues being raised. The core Arsenal support do stay away, all the pubs around Holloway road, Finsbury Park are rammed with Arsenal that simply refuse to pay these extortionate prices (especially seeing as our dear Stan from the US is hell bent on stripping us of our assets). It's a disgrace and in regards to paying high prices away, you should see what he had to pay at Chelsea and even QPR last year. I even paid well over £50 to see you lot earlier this season. These people are living in the clouds and its us mugs that have to take the brunt of it.

There are also other supporter clubs such AISA who have lobbeyed the board for close to 2 years to reduce ticket prices. These people just wont listen however. I applaud your stand to send back these tickets, it's a fucking disgrace.

As for the "Unfortunately a lot of their supporters seem to have lapped it up." You don't know many of us do you chap? If you think that we pray to the altar of this board, that Arsene and his constant whining about other clubs and how unfair it is that they have more money then we do (even though we spend so much on wages for players who we cant even sell on and who no longer play such as your Denilson's and Djourou's etc) is a mantra we all follow then you are as deluded as he is.

There is a massive divide between fans which are the ever diminishing Arsene Knows Brigade (lovingly referred to as the AKB's) and the other half who are sick to the back teeth of the constant lies that are spoon fed to us by the king of spin himself, Ivan Gazidis (a Man City fan by the way). There are people who only jumped on the bandwagon at Arsenal when football became really popular and Arsene FC was created. There are some who genuinely think that the club didn't exist before their deity arrived in '96. Anything that comes out of the mouths of their dear leader and board is the truth and all the talk about the evils of city (used to be Chelsea) is the only reason why we are now footballing also rans.

There are many, many of us who will support the team through thick and thin but will no longer put a penny into this club whilst the current regime exists.

It's got nothing to do with having an entitlement to win trophies, it's the constant lies and bullshit, the constant pining for this fantasy which is Financial Fair Play. It's a fucking joke. Unfortunately for us it wont be ending any time soon. Still for a shitty club with such horrible supporters like us I imagine you lot wont care which is fair enough as we didn't care when you were doing nowt.

As we are now doing something, I guess you feel the need to come on this forum. The thing is you have nothing to defend, you don't run your club. Just like the average City supporter, its out of our hands. The things is we have had more reality checks than the average gooner. The one thing is that under AW, you have actually produced less cradle to team youth players, however unless your youth system produces the quality needed to win the top honors, then you have to buy. Sadly you board has already gone record, with great pride, that they haven't put a penny of there own money into running the club in 30 years.
 
Away from the ticket price argument, is anyone keeping a check on the answers given to the which city player wouldyou most like question? Every time I read these opposition view things they all seem to want vinnie.
 
A bit rich for an Arsenal fan to be questionning "the sugar daddy model" as he put it, when their directors charge the highest prices, and take money OUT of the game, whilst our directors charge far lower prices and put money INTO the game.

Arsenal are no one to be lecturing or questionning anybody, especially City. Let's stuff 'em...and get Walcott on a free in the summer.
 
VOOMER said:
Holloway Harry said:
Alright chaps. I expect you are getting quite a few of us looking oh here today. I thought I'd put my 2 pennies in. In regards to the poster asking why we are not making a stand, there is a group that was formed last year called the black scarf movement (named as black was the only colour Nike haven't used as a kit colour) and we had over 2000 people demonstrating before the Swansea game in December. It was all over the press, Sky sports etc even a German TV crew that got wind of us when Schalke beat us in the CL where there and the prices of tickets was one of the issues being raised. The core Arsenal support do stay away, all the pubs around Holloway road, Finsbury Park are rammed with Arsenal that simply refuse to pay these extortionate prices (especially seeing as our dear Stan from the US is hell bent on stripping us of our assets). It's a disgrace and in regards to paying high prices away, you should see what he had to pay at Chelsea and even QPR last year. I even paid well over £50 to see you lot earlier this season. These people are living in the clouds and its us mugs that have to take the brunt of it.

There are also other supporter clubs such AISA who have lobbeyed the board for close to 2 years to reduce ticket prices. These people just wont listen however. I applaud your stand to send back these tickets, it's a fucking disgrace.

As for the "Unfortunately a lot of their supporters seem to have lapped it up." You don't know many of us do you chap? If you think that we pray to the altar of this board, that Arsene and his constant whining about other clubs and how unfair it is that they have more money then we do (even though we spend so much on wages for players who we cant even sell on and who no longer play such as your Denilson's and Djourou's etc) is a mantra we all follow then you are as deluded as he is.

There is a massive divide between fans which are the ever diminishing Arsene Knows Brigade (lovingly referred to as the AKB's) and the other half who are sick to the back teeth of the constant lies that are spoon fed to us by the king of spin himself, Ivan Gazidis (a Man City fan by the way). There are people who only jumped on the bandwagon at Arsenal when football became really popular and Arsene FC was created. There are some who genuinely think that the club didn't exist before their deity arrived in '96. Anything that comes out of the mouths of their dear leader and board is the truth and all the talk about the evils of city (used to be Chelsea) is the only reason why we are now footballing also rans.

There are many, many of us who will support the team through thick and thin but will no longer put a penny into this club whilst the current regime exists.

It's got nothing to do with having an entitlement to win trophies, it's the constant lies and bullshit, the constant pining for this fantasy which is Financial Fair Play. It's a fucking joke. Unfortunately for us it wont be ending any time soon. Still for a shitty club with such horrible supporters like us I imagine you lot wont care which is fair enough as we didn't care when you were doing nowt.

As we are now doing something, I guess you feel the need to come on this forum. The thing is you have nothing to defend, you don't run your club. Just like the average City supporter, its out of our hands. The things is we have had more reality checks than the average gooner. The one thing is that under AW, you have actually produced less cradle to team youth players, however unless your youth system produces the quality needed to win the top honors, then you have to buy. Sadly you board has already gone record, with great pride, that they haven't put a penny of there own money into running the club in 30 years.

Hallo mate, thanks for the reply. I don't feel the need to defend the club as quite frankly, the way they treat us, it's actually indefensible and I only came on here as this is a subject which has and is talked about at length on our forums and in the pubs, that our club see us as customers, not supporters and we are all fair game.

The club cater for the day tripper now, it isn't supporters they want but tourists who will get to see a game in a shiny stadium in London. They sell the "Arsenal experience". Let me repeat that. "The Arsenal Experience". That is sort of people we have running the club now. They couldn't give a fuck about you, me or the football.

I also as I mentioned applaud your stance on sending the tickets back. But have you seen our boards response already? Pretty much along the lines of we have nearly sold the returned tickets. They don't give a shit mate.

Again I only commented because some have said things on here about our response as fans etc and I just wanted to explain how it from our perspective and not how it may appear that's all. We're not all divs down here.
 
Bluemoon dan said:
Away from the ticket price argument, is anyone keeping a check on the answers given to the which city player wouldyou most like question? Every time I read these opposition view things they all seem to want vinnie.

Because he has genuine leadership quality - we had it with Adams, United with Keane, Chavski with Drogba and the racist. If we had a player like that when we had the young team with Cesc,Nasri and RvP we'd have racked up the trophies despite Ferguson and the sugardaddy clubs. Its very rare.Despite being foreign he seems to genuinely identify with the club as well.
 
I read the Arseblog article on the ticketing fiasco. Whilst they make some good points they seem to be obsessed by our spending yet they constantly yearn for their club to do just the same. They also forget that our owners are pouring vast sums and effort into the local community. Not the evil that they ignorantly report.
 
city91 said:
Let's get this right, because we buy players that means Arsenal have to charge more for ticket prices? What a joke of a statement that is.

Why is it that clubs like United and Arsenal always blame us and Chelsea for the way football is when they were the teams who made football as it is today. Its funny because they wasn't complaining when they had all the money and the best players.

As for ticket prices, I thought Arsenal did it the right way and not pay over the odds for a player or over inflated wages. Therefore they should have no excuse in the slightest for charging expensive prices, especially when they sell their players and don't invest it.

My view of Arsenal is that they are a horrible, stuck up, shitty club who are on par with the rags for having the most obnoxious and horrible supporters. They whinge about everything and honestly believe they have a god given right for success. I also think its rich of them to criticise us about buying players when at least we pay the fair value where as they think it is more acceptable to poach players from smaller clubs which could possibly ruin a club.
Cheers fella

The problem is as long standing fans we no longer feel we are part of the club, you seem to associate Arsenal PLC with Arsenal fans as if it was one..perhaps a bit like me suggesting you stood by every decision Peter Swales made x 1000. Our support is so divisive, the people who regularly travel away "oop North" and Europe etc and who will be there if ever the sky bubble burst are not the same as the rose tinted everything Arsenal is fantastic brigade. We are made most unwelcome and are clearly not the type the club wants...after 30 odd years of thick and thin(not as thin as City I know, I know) that is hard to take.

Believe me I would take 35 years of winning fuck all if we could become just a football club again.
 
A reasonable effort, I think a draw would be the most we could hope for given our track record in this fixture. I will say 2-1.

Not too sure what he's getting at re the sugar daddy comment, the fact we have rich owners has not pushed the prices of attendance up at games for either city or other clubs, Arsenal have always been robbing c unts in regards to ticket prices.

I think if he did a bit of research he would discover that city have some of the cheapest match day pricing around, and thats before we talk about the £250 season ticket... lazy southern c unt

I will also add that comments about how much money we have are fucking boring....4 years on.
 

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