ordinary working fans being priced out

Re: the beginning of the end for the ordinary working fan

squirtyflower said:
Corky said:
cleavers said:
Yep, its more nearing the middle of the end. Should have posted this in the mid 90's, and we're still one of the cheapest to watch with a season card (and in the cups till the 1/4 finals).


Blackburn's are less than half price and Manchester is far more deprived than Blackburn.
Have you been to Blackburn Corky


I don't make it up.

It was a wind up but also very true.
cleavers said:
Corky said:
Blackburn's are less than half price and Manchester is far more deprived than Blackburn.
That's why I said "one of" and "with a season card", but hey ho.

You guessed without knowing.
 
People in this country complain about prices but then pay them. In Germany they will organise a strike. I forget which team done it but the prices were doubled from the previous season and all the fans refused to pay them. The prices were reduced pronto, simples.
 
Some people are acting like right bellends on this thread!

The OP is right! Football prices in England (yes, that's England, not City on their own) are overpriced. In Germany, just eighteen months ago, fans of most clubs marched in their thousands to protest about ticket prices.
472410.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8986321.stm
http://www.soccerex.com/media-centr...re/german-fans-protest-against-ticket-prices/

We've tried to boycott games in the past (remember when we were outraged when Bolton charged us over £40 for the first time?) but nothing seems to have changed, in fact they've got worse, and we've done nothing else to stand against it. I think within our culture and society we put up with a lot more than other cultures and societies would stand for. With football ticket prices we have done everything but bend over and pull our pants down. In the last three years we've seen that individual ticket prices have crept over the £50 mark. £50 is too much and to be honest enough is enough. Are we really going to sit back and let clubs take the piss? I think it's time to do something. Some have said "it's 20 years too late" but it's never too late.

In Germany clubs have it right. Nice big modern stadiums, loads of space for corperates, then fair prices in the stands for the normal man. Bayern München have 12000 seasoncards priced (at the equivalent of) £104 every season. Their president Uli Hoeneß has said "We could charge more than £104. Lets say we charged £300. We'd get £2m more in income, but whats £2m to us? In a tranfer discussion you argue about that sum for five minutes. But the difference between £104 and £300 is huge for the fan. We do not think the fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody. Thats the biggest difference between us and England." I think they then have 12000 corporate packages where they make the rest of the money up and they aren't the only ones who price like this.


To answer a few points made earlier in the thread: Manchester is more deprived than Blackburn. In fact in the English Indices of Deprivation, Manchester had six or seven districts in the top twenty most deprived areas in the country. This included Benchill in Wythenshawe that was number one. Manchester as a city was up with Middlesbrough and Liverpool as the most derprived places in England. Blackburn was nowhere near this.


As for ticket prices I think I'm going to contact the FSF to see what sort of things they have in place to combat this. If fans are happy to let ticket prices go past £50, then in another three or four years £60, then by the end of the decade £75 then you pay it, but don't call people Victor Meldrew just because they don't want pay stupid prices for tickets.
 
danburge82 said:
Some people are acting like right bellends on this thread!

The OP is right! Football prices in England (yes, that's England, not City on their own) are overpriced. In Germany, just eighteen months ago, fans of most clubs marched in their thousands to protest about ticket prices.
472410.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8986321.stm
http://www.soccerex.com/media-centr...re/german-fans-protest-against-ticket-prices/

We've tried to boycott games in the past (remember when we were outraged when Bolton charged us over £40 for the first time?) but nothing seems to have changed, in fact they've got worse, and we've done nothing else to stand against it. I think within our culture and society we put up with a lot more than other cultures and societies would stand for. With football ticket prices we have done everything but bend over and pull our pants down. In the last three years we've seen that individual ticket prices have crept over the £50 mark. £50 is too much and to be honest enough is enough. Are we really going to sit back and let clubs take the piss? I think it's time to do something. Some have said "it's 20 years too late" but it's never too late.

In Germany clubs have it right. Nice big modern stadiums, loads of space for corperates, then fair prices in the stands for the normal man. Bayern München have 12000 seasoncards priced (at the equivalent of) £104 every season. Their president Uli Hoeneß has said "We could charge more than £104. Lets say we charged £300. We'd get £2m more in income, but whats £2m to us? In a tranfer discussion you argue about that sum for five minutes. But the difference between £104 and £300 is huge for the fan. We do not think the fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody. Thats the biggest difference between us and England." I think they then have 12000 corporate packages where they make the rest of the money up and they aren't the only ones who price like this.


To answer a few points made earlier in the thread: Manchester is more deprived than Blackburn. In fact in the English Indices or Deprivation, Manchester had six or seven districts in the top twenty most deprived areas in the country. This included Benchill in Wythenshawe that was number one. Manchester as a city was up with Middlesbrough and Liverpool as the most derprived places in England. Blackburn was nowhere near this.


As for ticket prices I think I'm going to contact the FSF to see what sort of things they have in place to combat this. If fans are happy to let ticket prices go past £50, then in another three or four years £60, then by the end of the decade £75 then you pay it, but don't call people Victor Meldrew just because they don't want pay stupid prices for tickets.

I posted something similar the other day, a £100 increase for 35,000 fans is about the same as we pay Adam Johnson in a year. The money is incidental to clubs and prices shouldn't go up. That said, I do think £500 for 19 top flight games is reasonable in this day and age.

I don't like games that are moved away from Saturday 3pm, but I do accept that in doing so we are supporting a system that brings in the revenue that helps to prevent ticket price rises.

As other people have said, lower league football is messed up. All the local clubs should be advertising their games in weekends when city/united are playing at different times. I'd have quite happily taken in a game at Stockport or Bury this weekend if it was a reasonable price.
 
LeeOnePen said:
danburge82 said:
Some people are acting like right bellends on this thread!

The OP is right! Football prices in England (yes, that's England, not City on their own) are overpriced. In Germany, just eighteen months ago, fans of most clubs marched in their thousands to protest about ticket prices.
472410.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8986321.stm
http://www.soccerex.com/media-centr...re/german-fans-protest-against-ticket-prices/

We've tried to boycott games in the past (remember when we were outraged when Bolton charged us over £40 for the first time?) but nothing seems to have changed, in fact they've got worse, and we've done nothing else to stand against it. I think within our culture and society we put up with a lot more than other cultures and societies would stand for. With football ticket prices we have done everything but bend over and pull our pants down. In the last three years we've seen that individual ticket prices have crept over the £50 mark. £50 is too much and to be honest enough is enough. Are we really going to sit back and let clubs take the piss? I think it's time to do something. Some have said "it's 20 years too late" but it's never too late.

In Germany clubs have it right. Nice big modern stadiums, loads of space for corperates, then fair prices in the stands for the normal man. Bayern München have 12000 seasoncards priced (at the equivalent of) £104 every season. Their president Uli Hoeneß has said "We could charge more than £104. Lets say we charged £300. We'd get £2m more in income, but whats £2m to us? In a tranfer discussion you argue about that sum for five minutes. But the difference between £104 and £300 is huge for the fan. We do not think the fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody. Thats the biggest difference between us and England." I think they then have 12000 corporate packages where they make the rest of the money up and they aren't the only ones who price like this.


To answer a few points made earlier in the thread: Manchester is more deprived than Blackburn. In fact in the English Indices or Deprivation, Manchester had six or seven districts in the top twenty most deprived areas in the country. This included Benchill in Wythenshawe that was number one. Manchester as a city was up with Middlesbrough and Liverpool as the most derprived places in England. Blackburn was nowhere near this.


As for ticket prices I think I'm going to contact the FSF to see what sort of things they have in place to combat this. If fans are happy to let ticket prices go past £50, then in another three or four years £60, then by the end of the decade £75 then you pay it, but don't call people Victor Meldrew just because they don't want pay stupid prices for tickets.

I posted something similar the other day, a £100 increase for 35,000 fans is about the same as we pay Adam Johnson in a year. The money is incidental to clubs and prices shouldn't go up. That said, I do think £500 for 19 top flight games is reasonable in this day and age.

I don't like games that are moved away from Saturday 3pm, but I do accept that in doing so we are supporting a system that brings in the revenue that helps to prevent ticket price rises.

As other people have said, lower league football is messed up. All the local clubs should be advertising their games in weekends when city/united are playing at different times. I'd have quite happily taken in a game at Stockport or Bury this weekend if it was a reasonable price.
I think City charge reasonable prices...at the moment. My SC was £595 this season (that's £31.31 per match), now that's not bad at all considering I sit on the half way line watching the best football in England. But it has gone up and will go up again. Where will it stop? Will it stop? We don't have a big enough or rich enough fanbase to go charging too much. But as I say City are doing us well at the moment with seasoncards.

But they haven't thought about individual ticket prices a few times. The worst part is other clubs though. When you're having to take an afternoon off work (I'm actually not allowed to book time off work) and lose out on money in having to do so because the game has been moved for tele, to go and spend £58 for a ticket at Chelsea plus travel and food expenses. That is absolutely ridiculous. Now is the time to make a stand about this.

As I say I will email the FSF this coming week and see what they had to say. For too long, too many have done nothing about this!
 
bluebannana said:
...the premiership is being catered for armchair fans and not the people that regulalry attend matches with a lot of fans are being priced out.

1) TICKET PRICES- the amount of money people are being asked to pay is just ridiculous for a season ticket, away ticket, general ticket.

So not really armchair fans then?

More an argument of 'catering for the rich?'
 
danburge82 said:
LeeOnePen said:
danburge82 said:
Some people are acting like right bellends on this thread!

The OP is right! Football prices in England (yes, that's England, not City on their own) are overpriced. In Germany, just eighteen months ago, fans of most clubs marched in their thousands to protest about ticket prices.
472410.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8986321.stm
http://www.soccerex.com/media-centr...re/german-fans-protest-against-ticket-prices/

We've tried to boycott games in the past (remember when we were outraged when Bolton charged us over £40 for the first time?) but nothing seems to have changed, in fact they've got worse, and we've done nothing else to stand against it. I think within our culture and society we put up with a lot more than other cultures and societies would stand for. With football ticket prices we have done everything but bend over and pull our pants down. In the last three years we've seen that individual ticket prices have crept over the £50 mark. £50 is too much and to be honest enough is enough. Are we really going to sit back and let clubs take the piss? I think it's time to do something. Some have said "it's 20 years too late" but it's never too late.

In Germany clubs have it right. Nice big modern stadiums, loads of space for corperates, then fair prices in the stands for the normal man. Bayern München have 12000 seasoncards priced (at the equivalent of) £104 every season. Their president Uli Hoeneß has said "We could charge more than £104. Lets say we charged £300. We'd get £2m more in income, but whats £2m to us? In a tranfer discussion you argue about that sum for five minutes. But the difference between £104 and £300 is huge for the fan. We do not think the fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody. Thats the biggest difference between us and England." I think they then have 12000 corporate packages where they make the rest of the money up and they aren't the only ones who price like this.


To answer a few points made earlier in the thread: Manchester is more deprived than Blackburn. In fact in the English Indices or Deprivation, Manchester had six or seven districts in the top twenty most deprived areas in the country. This included Benchill in Wythenshawe that was number one. Manchester as a city was up with Middlesbrough and Liverpool as the most derprived places in England. Blackburn was nowhere near this.


As for ticket prices I think I'm going to contact the FSF to see what sort of things they have in place to combat this. If fans are happy to let ticket prices go past £50, then in another three or four years £60, then by the end of the decade £75 then you pay it, but don't call people Victor Meldrew just because they don't want pay stupid prices for tickets.

I posted something similar the other day, a £100 increase for 35,000 fans is about the same as we pay Adam Johnson in a year. The money is incidental to clubs and prices shouldn't go up. That said, I do think £500 for 19 top flight games is reasonable in this day and age.

I don't like games that are moved away from Saturday 3pm, but I do accept that in doing so we are supporting a system that brings in the revenue that helps to prevent ticket price rises.

As other people have said, lower league football is messed up. All the local clubs should be advertising their games in weekends when city/united are playing at different times. I'd have quite happily taken in a game at Stockport or Bury this weekend if it was a reasonable price.
I think City charge reasonable prices...at the moment. My SC was £595 this season (that's £31.31 per match), now that's not bad at all considering I sit on the half way line watching the best football in England. But it has gone up and will go up again. Where will it stop? Will it stop? We don't have a big enough or rich enough fanbase to go charging too much. But as I say City are doing us well at the moment with seasoncards.

But they haven't thought about individual ticket prices a few times. The worst part is other clubs though. When you're having to take an afternoon off work (I'm actually not allowed to book time off work) and lose out on money in having to do so because the game has been moved for tele, to go and spend £58 for a ticket at Chelsea plus travel and food expenses. That is absolutely ridiculous. Now is the time to make a stand about this.

As I say I will email the FSF this coming week and see what they had to say. For too long, too many have done nothing about this!

Post your reply in this thread please :)
 
I havn't been to a game since around 2006 or 2007. For me personally ticket prices are too high. However i understand why they're priced this way because people are paying the prices. Even conference football is £20 and upward for a ticket. You would have to pay me £20 to even consider watching that crap.
 

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