Osama Bin Laden is dead.

[buzzer1]

Why are you asking me? It says it in the piece.

So it does. Sorry, didn't read it. Just remember the name from previously. So, a conspiracy nut reckons there's a conspiracy surrounding bin Laden. OK.

So basically if hes a conspiracist then hes a nut? how many conspiracists have been right in the past? and imo for you to come out with such a broad statement as you did is very dangerous and incredibly naive.

 

[-dabz-]

His credentials say otherwise.

He hasn't been in the US administration since Bush senior was in power.

Also, why wouldn't previous administrations have released this info before now? Surely any of them could have done it. Why is now the right time?

Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus

 

[buzzer1]

He hasn't been in the US administration since Bush senior was in power.

Also, why wouldn't previous administrations have released this info before now? Surely any of them could have done it. Why is now the right time?

Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus

KERPOW

 

[bluemoonmatt]

So it does. Sorry, didn't read it. Just remember the name from previously. So, a conspiracy nut reckons there's a conspiracy surrounding bin Laden. OK.

So basically if hes a conspiracist then hes a nut? how many conspiracists have been right in the past? and imo for you to come out with such a broad statement as you did is very dangerous and incredibly naive.

Well you tell us buzzer?

 

[buzzer1]

So basically if hes a conspiracist then hes a nut? how many conspiracists have been right in the past? and imo for you to come out with such a broad statement as you did is very dangerous and incredibly naive.

Well you tell us buzzer?

Did'nt some tool say the earth was'nt flat? or words to that effect?

 

[bluemoonmatt]

Well you tell us buzzer?

Did'nt some tool say the earth was'nt flat? or words to that effect?

Is that what you seriously count as a conspiracy theory?

LOL

 

[buzzer1]

Did'nt some tool say the earth was'nt flat? or words to that effect?

Is that what you seriously count as a conspiracy theory?

LOL

You get my point and obviously it was a conspiracy in the first place or was it just an idea? anyway, try the catholic church conspiracy(paedo's), but there was no truth in that was there?

Oh i, i see all the naysayers are rushing to answer Dabz' coup de gras of a post? any answers to that post Matt, or is the govt. insider a liar/nutter?

 

[Cheesy]

Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus

KERPOW

He's an advisor. Do you really think he has access to the sort of stuff you're on about?

His full time job is as a novellist. A fiction writer ;-)




-- Thu May 05, 2011 3:07 pm --

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus

So, at no time has he actually worked in any administration that has been in power since 2001.

Oh i, i see all the naysayers are rushing to answer Dabz' coup de gras of a post?any answers to that post Matt, or is the govt. insider a liar/nutter?

Not really a 'coup-de-gras' then as he doesn't work inside the government :-)

KERPOW?

 

[-dabz-]

KERPOW

He's an advisor. Do you really think he has access to the sort of stuff you're on about?

His full time job is as a novellist. A fiction writer ;-)




-- Thu May 05, 2011 3:07 pm --

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus

So, at no time has he actually worked in any administration that has been in power since 2001.

Oh i, i see all the naysayers are rushing to answer Dabz' coup de gras of a post?any answers to that post Matt, or is the govt. insider a liar/nutter?

Not really a 'coup-de-gras' then as he doesn't work inside the government :-)

Dress it up anyway you want. He's prepared to say what he's been told in front of a grand jury, and in doing so may be opening a can of worms that maybe worth keeping an eye on whichever side of the fence your on.
Dismiss it if you want, personally, Im intrigued...
Just to set the record straight, do I think 911 was an inside job? Do I think OBL has been dead for years? Ive no idea and by the same token neither does anyone who isn't involved, but I will not dismiss anything just because somebody has decided to tag it a "conspiracy theory".
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing" - That idiot Einstein again.

 

[Cheesy]

He's an advisor. Do you really think he has access to the sort of stuff you're on about?

His full time job is as a novellist. A fiction writer ;-)




-- Thu May 05, 2011 3:07 pm --



So, at no time has he actually worked in any administration that has been in power since 2001.




Not really a 'coup-de-gras' then as he doesn't work inside the government :-)

Dress it up anyway you want. He's prepared to say what he's been told in front of a grand jury, and in doing so may be opening a can of worms that maybe worth keeping an eye on whichever side of the fence your on.
Dismiss it if you want, personally, Im intrigued...
Just to set the record straight, do I think 911 was an inside job? Do I think OBL has been dead for years? Ive no idea and by the same token neither does anyone who isn't involved, but I will not dismiss anything just because somebody has decided to tag it a "conspiracy theory".
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing" - That idiot Einstein again.

I'm not arguing that you shouldn't think what you want, I just don't think you should misrepresent your views. This guy does not work in the government & hasn't actually worked in any US administration since before 9/11, therefore he isn't what you'd call credible in this instance is he?