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[Moss Side's Finest]

Pretty much all of the wealth in Europe originated from some degree of slavery, abuse, stealing and other repugnant acts. However, where do you draw the line? Flatten Europe and give all of the wealth back to the countries of origin? We need to never forgot our horrendous past and try to right our wrongs but the answer to that isn't in selecting random relics and running campaigns to have them erased, it's just superficial bumph

 

[Eccles Blue]

And derided by everybody.

Aha but it is the clicks that bring in the money apparently!! :-)

 

[Coatigan]

The thing is though, only one statue was torn down. It was either cheered on, criticised or ignored depending on your view.

It did big numbers for media sites and ever since then they've done false story after false story saying certain statues or whatever are going to be torn down, replaced etc leading to many to think 'our history ' is being replaced and cancelled.

However no statue has been torn down and no history cancelled.

The anger and perception by those articles still remains though.

That's why I reacted this week to the headline. It acted like the badge was to be replaced but the article didn't campaign for that. But i was criticised for trying to point this out.

One statue where?

Last I looked in the middle of 2021, there were over 20 statues removed out of a planned 85 in the UK. Hundreds in the US. Haven't checked how far they got since, but it isn't just one, and there is no denying it happened.

Not that it relates to the article really, which is a different point altogether. But a bit of a slippery slope regardless.

 

[argyle]

One statue where?

Last I looked in the middle of 2021, there were over 20 statues removed out of a planned 85 in the UK. Hundreds in the US. Haven't checked how far they got since, but it isn't just one, and there is no denying it happened.

Not that it relates to the article really, which is a different point altogether. But a bit of a slippery slope regardless.

It was the slaver statue in Brighton?

I don't really care what goes on in America anymore, they've gone even more nuts than usual.

 

[jonmcity]

The symbol at the top of the shield on the city of Manchester coat of arms is a ship in full sail, representing the city's trade with the rest of the world.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Pretty much all of the wealth in Europe originated from some degree of slavery, abuse, stealing and other repugnant acts. However, where do you draw the line? Flatten Europe and give all of the wealth back to the countries of origin? We need to never forgot our horrendous past and try to right our wrongs but the answer to that isn't in selecting random relics and running campaigns to have them erased, it's just superficial bumph

Pretty much the entire world has links to some form of slavery if you look back through history.

Right our wrongs - I guess Buxton needs to be flattened as the romans quite liked the water there and enslaved the brits ;)

 

[AliBobbyJ]

The Roma club crest (founded in 1927) features a female wolf suckling her young. This is a clear reference to Roman conquests and them taking animals and slaves back to Rome to be exploited in the Coliseum. I’m offended. Change it.

Wind-up, yes? Sure you really know it's recalling the legend of Rome's foundation by the two baby brothers suckled by a she-wolf, "lupa" in Latin, though a truer version might be that lupa was also Roman slang for a prostitute who found and raised the youngsters.

 

[mancityvstoke]

 

[Coatigan]

It was the slaver statue in Brighton?

I don't really care what goes on in America anymore, they've gone even more nuts than usual.

If you beleive the Guardian, they have a list of 70 monuments taken down in 2021, 30 statues and the rest place names and plaques, across the UK.

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

Wind-up, yes? Sure you really know it's recalling the legend of Rome's foundation by the two baby brothers suckled by a she-wolf, "lupa" in Latin, though a truer version might be that lupa was also Roman slang for a prostitute who found and raised the youngsters.

Bravo! You know your stuff. Yes it was a ridiculous wind up. The Guardian started it. Or is it?

Forefront in their mind when making that badge was celebrating Roman imperialism and the slaves they took from the Moors to the Gauls. Mark my words.