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SebastianBlue
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They’ve certainly not answered my letters demanding they apologise…Has Erling Haaland and his dad apologised for this yet?
If not I'm burning my shirt with his name on the back and no celebrating any of his goals.
By giving me a signed shirt.
Thought that was a rag pub back in the day ?Before I get angry, can I just confirm that the ship we are on about was the Pomona Palace ?
Saddleworth2
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They have gone through a period of self flagellation themselves in terms of benefiting from slavery and have pulled the rest of Manchester including the reds and us into their analysis. Whilst I didn’t agree with much of their conclusions, I didn’t see the article as a hatchet job.So an image of a ship now automatically means slavery?
This article sounds like the guardian clutching at straws and trying to create a reaction.
mexico1970
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They have gone through a period of self flagellation themselves in terms of benefiting from slavery and have pulled the rest of Manchester including the reds and us into their analysis. Whilst I didn’t agree with much of their conclusions, I didn’t see the article as a hatchet job.
You wake up one morning and decide that a cartoon ship was once a slave ship and that we should in some way be ashamed of that?
It's bollocks from top to bottom mate ;)
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Saw Thin Lizzy there ....not the hotel. To be fair the facade is still there.I thought it was The Ramada Hotel?
Oh yeah and The Happy Mondays
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Just made an appointment with the local tattoo artist to cover over the ship with a bee.
I'll send Andy Burnham a picture of it
I'll send Andy Burnham a picture of it
I thought this as well, but it turned out the ship on the Manchester coat of arms (1842) predates the canal by 50 years (opened 1894) which is pretty conclusive.
Why? Why is that conclusive. If I draw a ship now, it can relate to anything I want it to. The ship when it appeared on the club badge was after the canal was built, and after the period of slavery. And when it was used in 2016, it could literally have referred to anything the designers thought of.
People can have a view, and can link it or any other motif to many things. But one thing that is certain, no link can ever really be 'conclusive'.
Saddleworth2
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I didn’t and haven’t and aren’t.You wake up one morning and decide that a cartoon ship was once a slave ship and that we should in some way be ashamed of that?
It's bollocks from top to bottom mate ;)
I did read the article though.
mexico1970
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I didn’t and haven’t and aren’t.
I did read the article though.
Might as well have watched Peppa Pig to learn about the effects of the collapse of the Byzantine empire on coconut production and availability.