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Yes I have and it's shit, you pontificate yourself into a creamy mess and leave everyone with eyes that see a chance to avoid the mess you make.

Good day sir.

I think it’s a fair question to ask given how many people have admitted they haven’t in the media thread.
 
Again, your claim is that the club adopted the coat of arms of Manchester as a crest, but secretly changed the meaning of one element to mean something else.

Quite a lot of mental gymnastics going on there.

No that is your claim. I am nkt claiming they adopted it and changed it. I am saying they used a symbol of a ship, with the widely held view it represented the canal that opened the same year. Just because a ship was used elsewhere, doesn't make it the same meaning.

Ships existed before they were used in that period that involved slavery. And long after. As all symbols, they can be used to symbolise a variety of things.

That is not gymnastics, that is just basic awareness.
 
I think it’s a fair question to ask given how many people have admitted they haven’t in the media thread.

If you are defending some gimp connecting a cartoon ship on a few football badges with slavery you need to re-evaluate your priorities, it basically suggests that all ships are bad.

The piece is stupidly called Abandon Ship, I wouldn't be surprised if the anti this and that gang will read it and go to Manchester with chisels and orange paint.
 
If you take this argument all the way you might as well demolish civic buildings, libraries, universities, galleries, parks etc etc in all major cities from Glasgow to Sydney.
 

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