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ello_jo

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What I think our problem is is the fact that our reputation has grown faster than our team. We are now known to the footballing world as mega-rich city, therefore they expect us to be some sort of amazing team. It seems to me that teams are playing city and aiming to just stop us scoring and hopefully getting one on the break, and this is down to the fact that we are now the richest club in the world. We cannot perform against teams because they are just out to stop us scoring, the same as they do with chelsea, liverpool etc. But the "top four" are further along their process than us, with their team they can play against your scrappy teams and get a result because they're filled with quality match winning players. Thats why we perform so well when you see teams come to attack us ie. Hull, Pompey, Liverpool (althought we lost). We need to give Hughes time to build our squad in order to have the quality players that have the ability to break down these teams because at the moment we just haven't got the squad. In my opinion I think we need to let Hughes finish his fight to get us in the top ten this year, because no doubt he will, and then let him get our squad together in the summer ready to break down the like of bolton etc.
So all in all give Hughes time.
 
i dont know a lot about football management but do think with hughes being a striker he struggles with defensive strategies
 
Spot on, your Blackburns, Wigans etc play against us like they are playing against the rags or chelski, but we don't (yet) have that calibre of player all over the pitch.

After summer some of these games will be a lot easier.
 
ello_jo said:
What I think our problem is is the fact that our reputation has grown faster than our team. We are now known to the footballing world as mega-rich city, therefore they expect us to be some sort of amazing team. It seems to me that teams are playing city and aiming to just stop us scoring and hopefully getting one on the break, and this is down to the fact that we are now the richest club in the world. We cannot perform against teams because they are just out to stop us scoring, the same as they do with chelsea, liverpool etc. But the "top four" are further along their process than us, with their team they can play against your scrappy teams and get a result because they're filled with quality match winning players. Thats why we perform so well when you see teams come to attack us ie. Hull, Pompey, Liverpool (althought we lost). We need to give Hughes time to build our squad in order to have the quality players that have the ability to break down these teams because at the moment we just haven't got the squad. In my opinion I think we need to let Hughes finish his fight to get us in the top ten this year, because no doubt he will, and then let him get our squad together in the summer ready to break down the like of bolton etc.
So all in all give Hughes time.
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Rubbish, no other manager would be able to buy their way out of trouble, and MH is no exception whatsoever in my opinion. He came to the club thinking we had little money, and without the Arabs money to rescue him, he would and should be sacked by now already. I weep for this club at times. Everything has to be done differently, for the sake of it being done differently. With all this money, the one thing we could do with it, is get in a decent manager. Not an - out of his depth, lucky bounder that we have got who can't assemble a team to save his life, and can't get any respect from his staff.
 
bluemoondays said:
Spot on, your Blackburns, Wigans etc play against us like they are playing against the rags or chelski, but we don't (yet) have that calibre of player all over the pitch.

After summer some of these games will be a lot easier.
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Exactly, I think in order for us to progress our reputation and quality in the team has to be on a par or reputation below quality, but at the minute it is way out of balance. It is like our reputation has gone sky high whilst we are still the same team as last year.
 
our problem is that we are still relying on players who have let us down badly.

look at these games:
the 8-1 defeat to an average premierleague team,
the 6-0 away drubbing by chelsea,
the astonishing capitulation at home to fulham,
and losing by three at home to a lower league team,
the appaling record during 2008 as a whole

whats the common factor in them all?

here's a clue: it's not sven. it's not hughes. it's not shinawatra. it's not robinho.
 
bizzbo said:
our problem is that we are still relying on players who have let us down badly.

look at these games:
the 8-1 defeat to an average premierleague team,
the 6-0 away drubbing by chelsea,
the astonishing capitulation at home to fulham,
and losing by three at home to a lower league team,
the appaling record during 2008 as a whole

whats the common factor in them all?

here's a clue: it's not sven. it's not hughes. it's not shinawatra. it's not robinho.
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Bravo.
 
Last season our defence was superb, this season it has gone to pot. Could that have something to do with Faz leaving??????
 
The OP does have a great point though. Like it or not, we're not just poor little City now.
We do have a target on our heads.
 
In the last 2 and 1/2 months, we have only played well twice(home Arsenal, Hull) and while you can point to earlier results they are not a great indication on Hughes as a manager. This team looks a shadow of the one that lost to both Liverpool and Chelsea.
 
Its obvious we're going to have to pay over the odds for every player we target, didn't Chelsea ffs.

Can't believe Cook and Hughes came out with the crap about not being held to ransom, if you we're a manager of a selling club everyone of us would put the figure up its a simple fact of life.

What pisses me off is giving these clubs a few extra million wont make them any more of a threat to us, the credit crunch will see that money going elsewhere and even if it didn't lets say Blackburn spent the whole 20m on players would they really get better than what we should be getting because shouldn't we have got them players first, because at the moment we're the only club realistically spending so having that first choice should ensure we get the best currently available.

If we want Cruz, Lescott, Parker, Bellamy and Given then fucking spend it, the total sum of money including Bridge would be about £75m its chicken feed to our new owners but it would seriously make us a stronger squad to push on to the next level.

All these rumours can be doing no good for the squads confidence or the clubs image so stop dithering around Hughes and Cook and start building the fucking team.
 
DontLookBackInAnger said:
In the last 2 and 1/2 months, we have only played well twice(home Arsenal, Hull) and while you can point to earlier results they are not a great indication on Hughes as a manager. This team looks a shadow of the one that lost to both Liverpool and Chelsea.
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Bit harsh on the boys who went to Schalke...
 
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