Overrating players/Adam Johnson

[johnmc]

I don't see your point at all - what are you trying to say? - every player City have signed I have tried to see the good bits (including Martin Phillips) and justify them to myself, and others around me - as fantastic players, even when I know, deep down they are pants or over the hill.

I don't think us overrating them spoils them at all, in fact I don't think our opinions on them on a club forum has any effect on our players whatsoever.

Do you honestly think just because a City fan says on an Internet forum that AJ is worth £20 million that he will lose all skill, sense and power in his legs or that he will be banging down Bobby Mancs door asking for a transfer or a pay rise?

Take yourself outside and give yourself a good talking to fella and stop being so bloody negative - the future is bright, the future is City!!

No i dont think that but i dont want fans to be overrating players making us look daft. Just like we laugh at someone saying they will buy onuha for £5m then we look a bit daft saying Johnson is a £20m + player. No one would have said that when he was at boro yet 12 prem league games for us and he is a world beater.

Im not being negative as such, Johnson is a player with great potential, without a shadow, he isnt, in my opinion, as good as SWP at this time. So why we saying its ok for SWP to go? Not everyones opinion obviously but the stats are there.

 

[bleuger]

I like Johnson but I can't help but think he'sbeing getting better through the summer with every game he hasn't played.

 

[gio's side step]

He had a good impact correct. No arguments. He looks like a good player and might one day be a great player - but he isnt yet. We have also seen time and time again players come in, make a good impression then slip back. Lets judge him after a season or two , not label him the biggest thing since Maradonna.

Certainly and In my opinion dont really go together do they. Maybe he would maybe he wouldnt.

And johnson is 23 with 60 odd prem games under his belt before he came to us

Who's labelled him the biggest thing since Maradonna? Your point was about overrating players? I don't think people are overrating him by saying he's a gifted young footballer? He might not go one to be a great, but I dont think people are overrating him. I agree that people overrated Richards. Massively.

 

[Mikey77]

Never rated Richards, he's the most brain dead footballer I have seen at City. Lapses in concentration is being polite. Might have looked decent to some during the Pearce drivel, but I've never rated him as a defender. Being big, powerful and arrogant doesn't make you a clever and able footballer.

Ireland is and still is a good player, lacking the self belief perhaps to be a great player.

From what we have seen of M. Johnson, he looks the most promising box to box midfielder with a great engine we have had for a LONG time, but fear his injuries might prevent him reaching his potential.

My evidence for rating A. Johnson, is having seen a player come playing championship football early season to making an immediate, consistent contribution to a team playing for a top 4 spot. Add to that, the majority of the England press, players, all noted he was the best player in training prior to the world cup. If Capello wasn't a pillock, he'd have gone, and certainly been more productive than Lennon, SWP, Gerrard, Millner in my opinion. We have seen many young players play for City, but how many recently have instantly been better than A.Johnson?

This. Any football fan who watched AJ last season saw the talent he has to go past players and pick out a pass, i dont think we are over rating him. In the second half of the season i think he was second only to tevez in a city shirt. Real talent that we are lucky to have

 

[Manc in London]

We seem to have a habit of doing this don't we?

Lets not ruin another one.

On internet forums, yes. In real life, no. If you go to the games, you are lucky to hear any positive opinions of players.

Getting 'behind' players ruins them? Unbelieveable.

 

[kp789]

They are good players but we will rate them higher cause they play for city

 

[johnmc]

Who's labelled him the biggest thing since Maradonna? Your point was about overrating players? I don't think people are overrating him by saying he's a gifted young footballer? He might not go one to be a great, but I dont think people are overrating him. I agree that people overrated Richards. Massively.

An over exaggeration on my part.

However in the (ridulous) thread about him going to spurs on the transfer forum - "we bought him for £7m and he is twice the player now" - In twelve games for us he has gone from a player at boro who was hardly the name on everyones lips, despite having obvious potential to the next big thing. In less than a third of a season! A little ahead of ourselves dont you think.

Or how about "£20m or more" - when we paid £7m for him i dont think anyone though it was a snip - it may turn out to be - but has our opinion really changed that much in 12 games?

His stats arent any better than SWPs.

 

[Garry.Cook]

In fairness mate fans of other clubs are looking at him aswell, in my short time on the Everton forum he is the only player they refuse to slag off. Says something.

 

[oakiecokie]

We seem to have a habit of doing this don't we?

Richards, Ireland and M. Johnson are three prime examples.

No Im worried about us doing the same with A Johnson. He, at the minute, is promising. Nothing more really. He had a couple of good games, a couple of decent games and a couple of fairly anonymous games last season. Now he is the buy of the decade, answer to the problems for club and country and will probably lead the country out of the recession.

Come on, he has yet to justify his fairly hefty price tag yet, but in the transfer thread people are saying he is a £20m + player!!

Lets not ruin another one.

Sorry buy for me "a hefty price tag" of £7M + a further £1m is NOT excessive in this day and age.

 

[johnmc]

We seem to have a habit of doing this don't we?

Lets not ruin another one.

On internet forums, yes. In real life, no. If you go to the games, you are lucky to hear any positive opinions of players.

Getting 'behind' players ruins them? Unbelieveable.

No, not at all. But do you not think that any of the hype in respect of M Johnson or Richards went to their heads at all?

I agree, maybe it can be beneficial to tell someone they are the best player in the world as they might start to believe it and actually become that. Maybe

All I was trying to say was in my opinion we are getting ahead of ourselves with this guy.