Palace v City post match thread.

[Chippy_boy]

Because we've seen it all too often this season - particular since New Year, when every other match day has seemed like groundhog day - I think most posters are looking at last night's performance too negatively.
On the groundhog days, we've had no luck at all except bad; on the rough end of the decisions that count; 'worldies' scored against us with regularity; usually dominating posession, record number of shots and hitting of the woodwork - looks like the cycle has come full circle and we're paying for any good luck we had when we won both Premier League titles.
Putting aside our individual arguments about team selection which might have changed things, it's hard to argue with anything else that Pellegrini had to say after the match namely, that we dominated but couldn't score, and they won thanks to an offside goal and a world class free kick.
It just ain't our season! At least we go into the derby as underdogs, and that hasn't happened for a very long time - I think we were underdogs when we won 6 -1 weren't we?

OK we all have our opinions - but never in a million years was it a World Class free kick. Hart was at fault - too near his right hand post - gave himself too much ground to cover. Puncheon starting position meant that the ball could have only gone where it did. - left foot over the wall into the left of Hart.
Has it been proved that the first goal was offside.?? - I do not have Sky. .

It was just offside but marginal.

The alarm bells should have sounded when the same linesman didn't flag in the first 5 minutes with Palace's first attempt when 2 players were 5 yards off.

 

[FantasyIreland]

On seeing that team sheet,and in particular,the names of Yaya and Dzeko,i was in no doubt that we would struggle to get a result.

Had we played one upfront,and included a second midfielder who is capable of a decent shift......while not rotating half the fucking team.....then i'm sure the 3 points would have returned North.

The exact same comments get posted on every post match thread,because the same mistakes are being made by our manager.....every man and his dog can see where we can improve and yet we continue to handicap ourselves by playing a system that is incredibly transparent,doesn't suit our players,and gives the opposition a huge advantage - its fucking bizarre.

 

[Happy Feet]

On seeing that team sheet,and in particular,the names of Yaya and Dzeko,i was in no doubt that we would struggle to get a result.

Had we played one upfront,and included a second midfielder who is capable of a decent shift......while not rotating half the fucking team.....then i'm sure the 3 points would have returned North.

The exact same comments get posted on every post match thread,because the same mistakes are being made by our manager.....every man and his dog can see where we can improve and yet we continue to handicap ourselves by playing a system that is incredibly transparent,doesn't suit our players,and gives the opposition a huge advantage - its fucking bizarre.

Bang on the money

 

[Danielmanc]

On seeing that team sheet,and in particular,the names of Yaya and Dzeko,i was in no doubt that we would struggle to get a result.

Had we played one upfront,and included a second midfielder who is capable of a decent shift......while not rotating half the fucking team.....then i'm sure the 3 points would have returned North.

The exact same comments get posted on every post match thread,because the same mistakes are being made by our manager.....every man and his dog can see where we can improve and yet we continue to handicap ourselves by playing a system that is incredibly transparent,doesn't suit our players,and gives the opposition a huge advantage - its fucking bizarre.

Bizarre is right - and that is the mystery that is Manuel. He is either stubborn to the point of self destruction or he is clueless.

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Defensively thought we were quite good last night could have handled murry better but apart from that thought we were sound! Had a perfect line for there first goal playing 2 players offside but that linesman was a joke we got fuck all of him all night! The 2nd goal was just a great strike! Thought the 4 midfield players put a good shift in! Including toure! Dzeko was awful sergio out of sorts and we just didn't take our chances! Pellers though waited to long with his subs dzeko should have been hooked at half time for milner/nasri might have prevented that 2nd goal.

The second goal was a comedy of errors.

Toure lost a challenge for a header, silva miscontrolled, Demichellis put in a crap challenge and missed it, Fernandinho made a stupid tackle and Hart was in the wrong position.

Other than that it was good defending!

How can someone miscontrolling the ball be classed as bad defending? Diniho had to make the challenge he thought he was taking 1 for the team and if the ball goes flying over the bar it would have been classed as great decision! Great free kick that's all it was! We defended well because apart from that free kick the defence made sure hart had nothing to do! And don't start with well what about the first goal as it was mile offside before murray got to it!

 

[tommyhair]

What gets me how we consistently make bang average players look great.

Take Glenn Murray, very average player yet we make him look like Pele. Winning every header, bullying our defenders.

Same against Burnley twice. Ings, Boyd, Barnes all have stormers against us.

All these players and there teams have at least double the desire when we come up against them.

Its not the players against us its their hearts and will to win. We lack the strength in character to compete, and I'm afraid that this is vital to success.

Spot on

 

[supercrystal7]

Glanced through this thread and I think people are just repeating the City narrative of the season rather than what actually happened in the game ie City lazy, Yaya lay, players showed no desire etc. When yesterday that was complete nonsense. We are as determined and committed a side as you will find in the league. When you play us you are going to get a physical, but fair game. Our players are always going to give 100% and run until they drop. I saw the Burnley game and the performance from City was nothing like against Burnley, today your players were committed and gave a 100%.

Pellegrini also deserves no blame yesterday, because he got his tactics and selection spot on. City shut down our threats better than any team this season and Bolasie, a player as fast and powerful as any, could not do much.

That being said it was not a good City performance and it was obvious despite trying very hard your team was low on confidence. The passing was slow, not enough chances created, the crossing was poor and when you had shots they were wild.

Aguero, Silva and Navas had poor games and Yaya was not great either, but he kept trying.

It wasn't our best performance either, but Murray and Dann were brilliant. Not surprised by Murray, because he should have been a Premier League player a long time ago as should have Speroni, Jedinak and Zaha. Wilf's movement off the ball needs a lot of work, but United have really done a number on him. Next season hopefully he can get back to his form he had a couple of years ago.

We have got lucky with a couple of decisions, but cannot blame the ref for them really. Seen the replays and the offside was marginal, but the penalty should have been spotted by a linesman. Pardew does seem to be a luck manager, which has helped. Hopefully we can push on and try and get 9th.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Pellegrini also deserves no blame yesterday, because he got his tactics and selection spot on.

How have you come to that conclusion given he played two front men who have zero chemistry and one of which makes no contribution when we lose possession? which,in that formation,is only marginally less than when we have it.......

 

[supercrystal7]

Pellegrini also deserves no blame yesterday, because he got his tactics and selection spot on.

How have you come to that conclusion given he played two front men who have zero chemistry and one of which makes no contribution when we lose possession? which,in that formation,is only marginally less than when we have it.......

Well Bony was injured and Dzeko had come off the back of scoring several goals for Bosnia. It's not as if Aguero works hard enough either, but that was not a problem yesterday, because the team did work hard enough. You had virtually all of the ball and we did not create on the counter. Yesterday your players just did not play well enough despite being set up very well.

When Pellegrini sets up like he did against Barca/Liverpool/Arsenal/Roma(home) then he deserves all the criticism he gets. Yesterday was not one of those days.

What exactly could he have done better? You need to play two strikers, because he planned to push as back and needed goalscorers. Dzeko gives a physical presence both defensively and attacking wise against a very big team.

 

[trublue55]

We have got lucky with a couple of decisions, but cannot blame the ref for them really. Seen the replays and the offside was marginal, but the penalty should have been spotted by a linesman. Pardew does seem to be a luck manager, which has helped. Hopefully we can push on and try and get 9th.

What pisses me off, with this "marginal" offside, is that sky analysed the lead up to the goal, and showed with their ultra latest technology, that Dann was marginally offside (but too close for it to be obvious to the lino,) and despite City's appeals, both of the other 2 occasions in the build up were marginally onside, so the lino got it right. So with the latest technology and 45 minutes analysing, they came to the conclusion that one section only was marginally offside, but on balance, at the split second crucial moment it was too close for the officials to be 100%.

Excuse me if i am "marginally biased", but at first glance, and at normal speed, ALL 3 parts of the build up, ALL looked clearly offside, and as that is what the officials saw, how on earth could the linesman, not see the apparent offside (3 times over), then when sky analysed it afterwards, they could discuss what section he had actually flagged for, and then come to the conclusion, that although all 3 times looked offside, surprisingly 2 of them weren't, but it least they got the correct decision.

Mind you , the writing was on the wall from the first minute, when the incompetent twat failed to realise that 3 players were yards offside, and had Zaha put the ball in the net, he would have allowed it to stand