Palestine Action

[Bluemanc100]

This is nonsense, in places the fence around Brize is equivalent to your average garden fence which just about anybody could scale. Major international airports have huge steel fences with cameras etc and then a large armed police force at the airport. It's ridiculous that Brize is less protected than this.

The apron is also a much smaller and predictable space so given the shite fence it should have been identified as a security risk mitigated by RAF regiment or MOD Police patrols/sentrys. They don't need to protect the perimeter, they literally just have to stand by the aircraft but clearly they were nowhere to be seen.

The station commander would have been given a massive bollocking that's for sure.

Some of the fence was clearly breachable .. I disagree that all of it is..

They can position detectors or personnel around assets but again, the physical manpower required to do this across the UK military just doesn’t exist..

Maybe if we still had a system of citizenship or national service then things would be different.. I’d argue that there is no appetite for it in “peacetime” from the UK population, the UK govt or the potential candidates..

 

[blueinsa]

On one side you have 83 year old vicars waving a sign and on the other you have people trying to burn people alive in hostels.

Oh, what a tricky moral dilemma facing us.

Age and occupation are not considerations when breaking the law or in this instance, supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation.

 

[The blue phantom]

Do you have any idea how much a modern jet engine costs?

From what I can gather someone put the details of that very plane back in action after a few days. Without an engine change.

 

[Metal Biker]

Age and occupation are not considerations when breaking the law or in this instance, supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation.

Christ imagine if it was.

"Your honour, I may have murdered this man in cold blood with no discernable reason or justification, but consider this; I'm an octogenarian female priest! Show me mercy!"

 

[The blue phantom]

Age and occupation are not considerations when breaking the law or in this instance, supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation.

Let me ask you this, forget the law for a minute which you well know is a stitch up regarding this group.

Who would you say was more of a terriost sympatiser or just a Terriost. The old dear with the sign saying stop the massacres. Or the IDF?

 

[bluethrunthru]

I note that a priest, an emeritus professor and a number of health professionals were among those arrested.

As my retired nurse friend said today, having watched the film that the BBC wouldn't show and Channel 4 did, if I was in Gaza I'd be dead.

Dead in Gaza or a terrorist in the UK. It's all relative.

 

[lloydie]

The vandalism resulted in jets being grounded for engine changes as a minimum.. the painted / damaged engines going back to RR for remanufacture (at huge fucking expense to you and me by the way)

Any deliberate damage to military assets should be classed as serious IMHO.. Treason in fact

 

[Gobshiight]

Famously, laws in this country have always been just...

I don't think people are surprised at the police doing their jobs, it's more outrage that support for Palestine Action is illegal in the first place

 

[Metal Biker]

Let me ask you this, forget the law for a minute which you well know is a stitch up regarding this group.

Who would you say was more of a terriost sympatiser or just a Terriost. The old dear with the sign saying stop the massacres. Or the IDF?

"Forget the law for a minute..."

No, I don't think I shall. Law is the Law. Obey it, or be considered an outlaw and face justice of our legal system. Just as those during the Southport riots discovered, perceived severity of a crime does not protect them from the courts.

 

[The blue phantom]

Fuckin lol. What about those £7 Million RR engines that needed to be replaced as the plane would be grounded for months.

 

[Metal Biker]

Famously, laws in this country have always been just...

I don't think people are surprised at the police doing their jobs, it's more outrage that support for Palestine Action is illegal in the first place

Our democratically elected Parliament decided thus.

Do you not have faith in the UK legal systems of law, order and justice?

 

[remember arthur mann]

"Forget the law for a minute..."

No, I don't think I shall. Law is the Law. Obey it, or be considered an outlaw and face justice of our legal system. Just as those during the Southport riots discovered, perceived severity of a crime does not protect them from the courts.

FFS !

 

[Gobshiight]

Our democratically elected Parliament decided thus.

Do you not have faith in the UK legal systems of law, order and justice?

No

 

[bluethrunthru]

I have yet to see a Palestine action flag - I assume they mean the flag of Palestine as the Hamas flag is already proscribed. WTF is going on?

 

[Bluemanc100]

Fuckin lol. What about those £7 Million RR engines that needed to be replaced as the plane would be grounded for months.

You know they can change an engine I take it…

 

[Metal Biker]

No

Then you should support our legal systems decision then, correct? Otherwise you'r just picking and choosing which 'justice' you support. Which is just anarchy. There are plenty of rules and regulations I disagree with, but I abide by them.

 

[BobKowalski]

Famously, laws in this country have always been just...

I don't think people are surprised at the police doing their jobs, it's more outrage that support for Palestine Action is illegal in the first place

To quote Charles Dickens ‘The law is an ass’. In this case it is braying like a herd of fucking donkeys.

 

[The blue phantom]

"Forget the law for a minute..."

No, I don't think I shall. Law is the Law. Obey it, or be considered an outlaw and face justice of our legal system. Just as those during the Southport riots discovered, perceived severity of a crime does not protect them from the courts.

Answer the question.

 

[Metal Biker]

FFS !

What a wonderfully reasoned and well argued response.

"For fucks sake!" Inspired! I'm guessing then that you disagree with the current ruling by your elected Parliament regarding the group Palestine Action? Does this mean you are also against the incarceration of those who posted "inflammarory" and "incitement to violence" tweets of the Southport Riots?

 

[BobKowalski]

I have yet to see a Palestine action flag - I assume they mean the flag of Palestine as the Hamas flag is already proscribed. WTF is going on?

That is so dumb. Is wearing a T-shirt saying ‘Action for Palestine’ illegal? Are we now interpreting that as support for Palestine Action? Is protesting ethnic cleansing a criminal offence? As for the flag - what fucking flag?

This is so stupid it hurts.