Palestine Action

Brooklands Blue said:
Islam is a belief system not a race. Islamaphoia as the late, great Christopher Hitchens once wrote " a word created by fascists, used by cowards to control morons".

Pointing out atrocities carried out by Muslims and inspired by the 7th century death cult faith they follow is a matter of fact whichever you look at it.

I feel sorry for the people of Gaza as they are being used as human collateral by the Hamas leadership and I can't condone the actions of the Israeli government either.

Interesting that the genocide of Christians in Nigeria by boko haram or the actions of the Saudis in Yemen goes relatively unreported in comparison to the situation in Gaza. Clearly certain genocide is more important than others!!
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7th century death cult?

What about the 21st century death cult based in Jerusalem?

But I'm glad you "don't condone" their actions. How about condemning them?
 
Brooklands Blue said:
Islam is a belief system not a race. Islamaphoia as the late, great Christopher Hitchens once wrote " a word created by fascists, used by cowards to control morons".

Pointing out atrocities carried out by Muslims and inspired by the 7th century death cult faith they follow is a matter of fact whichever you look at it.

I feel sorry for the people of Gaza as they are being used as human collateral by the Hamas leadership and I can't condone the actions of the Israeli government either.

Interesting that the genocide of Christians in Nigeria by boko haram or the actions of the Saudis in Yemen goes relatively unreported in comparison to the situation in Gaza. Clearly certain genocide is more important than others!!
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There were protests about arms sales to Saudi at the height of the Yemen war, and Amnesty and their partners won a court case ruling the arms sale illegal. Of course, rather than actually stopping arms sales to Saudi, they instead looked for ways to carry on doing it without breaking the law. There are actually a lot of parallels with that and our arms sales to Israel.

But you're right, it has largely gone unreported since then, because it's been going for long enough to have left the news cycle. Boko Haram is completely different though. They're are a terrorist group, basically the equivalent of Hamas. You might get the odd protest in solidarity with the victims, but ultimately, the UK government and Nigerian government are not funding or arming this group, so what is there to protest about in the UK? There is naturally going to be more concern about our cosy relationship with oppressive regimes than a terrorist or rebel group we've got nothing to do with.
 
Vic said:
7th century death cult?

What about the 21st century death cult based in Jerusalem?

But I'm glad you "don't condone" their actions. How about condemning them?
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I do condem them as much as I condem Hamas. The latter seem to get a free pass from a number of poster's on here.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
There were protests about arms sales to Saudi at the height of the Yemen war, and Amnesty and their partners won a court case ruling the arms sale illegal. Of course, rather than actually stopping arms sales to Saudi, they instead looked for ways to carry on doing it without breaking the law. There are actually a lot of parallels with that and our arms sales to Israel.

But you're right, it has largely gone unreported since then, because it's been going for long enough to have left the news cycle. Boko Haram is completely different though. They're are a terrorist group, basically the equivalent of Hamas. You might get the odd protest in solidarity with the victims, but ultimately, the UK government and Nigerian government are not funding or arming this group, so what is there to protest about in the UK? There is naturally going to be more concern about our cosy relationship with oppressive regimes than a terrorist or rebel group we've got nothing to do with.
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My point was concerning the reporting of the various genocides.
 
Brooklands Blue said:
My point was concerning the reporting of the various genocides.
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More than 30 jihadists killed in air strikes, Nigerian military says​


Nigeria's military has killed 35 jihadists in a series of air strikes near its north-eastern border with Cameroon, it said in a statement.

The strikes were carried out in four areas to thwart an attempt by the jihadists to attack ground troops, the military added.

Nigeria has been battling jihadist groups for more than a decade, as well as violent criminal gangs, sectarian conflict and widespread kidnappings for ransom.
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More information about claims of a Christian genocide in Nigeria. The Catholic Church have distanced themselves from groups making such claims. There is a tendency for groups to make such claims to win the support of rich western donors and governments, particularly in America, where the narrative of the persecuted Christian goes down well. I am of course in no way suggesting that there isn't horrific persecution of religious minorities in parts of the Muslim world, but genocide is a big claim. But Boko Haram have killed many many Muslims too. Which doesn't mean it's not a genocide (I don't think there's evidence that it is, for the record). Killing the wrong type of Muslim is just as much of a religious killing as killing a Christian or Hindu or atheist or anything else. But the article I linked is a pretty nuanced take on the issue.
 
Brooklands Blue said:
I do condem them as much as I condem Hamas. The latter seem to get a free pass from a number of poster's on here.
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You've absolutely no evidence for that last calumny.

But as the UN Secretary-General said after 7th October, it did not happen in a vacuum. Why had Netanyahu promoted Hamas? Why had the Gazans voted for Hamas rather than Fatah? Why was no western government really bothered about the thousands of hostages Israel was holding and torturing?


Excellencies,

It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum.

The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation.

They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence; their economy stifled; their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing.

But the grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the appalling attacks by Hamas. And those appalling attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people.

Even war has rules.
 
Vic said:
You've absolutely no evidence for that last calumny.

But as the UN Secretary-General said after 7th October, it did not happen in a vacuum. Why had Netanyahu promoted Hamas? Why had the Gazans voted for Hamas rather than Fatah? Why was no western government really bothered about the thousands of hostages Israel was holding and torturing?


Excellencies,

It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum.

The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation.

They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence; their economy stifled; their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing.

But the grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the appalling attacks by Hamas. And those appalling attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people.

Even war has rules.
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So you're suggesting the UN-secrectary General posts on this forum? My point was Hamas seem to get a free pass from a number of posters on bluemoon.

Let's call out terrorist behaviour and genocide regardless of who is committing the act.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
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Link

More information about claims of a Christian genocide in Nigeria. The Catholic Church have distanced themselves from groups making such claims. There is a tendency for groups to make such claims to win the support of rich western donors and governments, particularly in America, where the narrative of the persecuted Christian goes down well. I am of course in no way suggesting that there isn't horrific persecution of religious minorities in parts of the Muslim world, but genocide is a big claim. But Boko Haram have killed many many Muslims too. Which doesn't mean it's not a genocide (I don't think there's evidence that it is, for the record). Killing the wrong type of Muslim is just as much of a religious killing as killing a Christian or Hindu or atheist or anything else. But the article I linked is a pretty nuanced take on the issue.
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My point is why is there such a media focus on gaza when there is such much more genocide taking place around the world?
 
Brooklands Blue said:
So you're suggesting the UN-secrectary General posts on this forum? My point was Hamas seem to get a free pass from a number of posters on bluemoon.

Let's call out terrorist behaviour and genocide regardless of who is committing the act.
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Just checking that means you are calling out Israel's terrorism and genocide...
 
Brooklands Blue said:
So you're suggesting the UN-secrectary General posts on this forum? My point was Hamas seem to get a free pass from a number of posters on bluemoon.

Let's call out terrorist behaviour and genocide regardless of who is committing the act.
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They get nothing of the sort. It goes without saying that Hamas are murdering cunts and I very much doubt that anyone on here will disagree with that. Are you suggesting that each and every time that Israel kills innocent Palestinians - something that has happened pretty much every day for nearly 2 years now - and someone posts about it on here, that they also have to mention that Hamas are cunts as well?
 
Brooklands Blue said:
So you're suggesting the UN-secrectary General posts on this forum? My point was Hamas seem to get a free pass from a number of posters on bluemoon.

Let's call out terrorist behaviour and genocide regardless of who is committing the act.
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Hamas were called out on Oct 7th. Difference is, people didn't come on here simping for Hamas when it happened. There's also the pretty jarring issue of ongoing Western support for IDF terrorists.
 

George Galloway on Palestine
The IDF just killed almost all the remaining journalist in this totally uneven unequal war ? slaughter in Gaza.


The UK/USA are responsible for the annexation/annihilation of Palestine by Israel. We have totally ignored the plight of the Arabs/Palestinians since 1890, when boatloads of European and American Jews decided they wanted the land.
 
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Kirkstall Blue said:


Portsmouth Palestine flag taken down and the sound system turned off for saying Free Palestine
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At least people know what genocide enabling festivals we know not to go to from now on

Another despicable Palestine Action supporting terrorist arrested this weekend. This time it's James Grote, a Christian minister:



Well done israel for changing our laws and getting these disgusting muslamic jihaidi terrorists off our streets. Britain is a better place with israel running it

God save the king
 
Kirkstall Blue said:


Portsmouth Palestine flag taken down and the sound system turned off for saying Free Palestine
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Did they really think asking a band known for their politically charged songs to play at their shitty festival were not going to say something.. just come on and pretend nothing is happening and help sell the tickets...
 
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Brooklands Blue said:
So you're suggesting the UN-secrectary General posts on this forum? My point was Hamas seem to get a free pass from a number of posters on bluemoon.

Let's call out terrorist behaviour and genocide regardless of who is committing the act.
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Whilst Hamas maybe terrorists in that they operate outside the rules of law as indeed do the IDF they are more than this too. Like Hezbollah they are deeply involved in providing infrastructure, schools, hospitals, housing etc Hardly surprising as they are the de facto government. And let's not forget they received much financial support from Israel who wanted to drive a wedge between the Palestinians in the West Bank and those in Gaza.
Palestinians need to have arms. They need an army. They have an ultra belligerent state on their border intent on stealing as much Palestinian land as they can while the West turns a blind eye.

Everyone talks about Israel having the right to defend itself but no one says the same about Palestinians who are the ones under occupation.
 
www.bbc.co.uk

Screenwriter Paul Laverty arrested at protest under terror act

The 68-year-old, who wrote the film I, Daniel Blake, was arrested outside a police station in Edinburgh.
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Laverty was arrested in the Summerhall courtyard, with officers allegedly instructing people to delete video of the incident or have their phones seized.​
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So now we have the police threatening members of the public for recording an arrest - something which is not illegal under any UK law.

They are digging themselves a bigger and bigger hole over this.
 
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