Our "left wing" "Labour" "government" are being fascist?Just seems utterly fuckin bizarre that someone could stand with a "I support the IDF's campaign in Palestine" placard next to someone with "I support 'Palestine Action"
One of those is getting arrested
The tweets are from 2014.Maybe I'm being thick and missing something but I don't see her supporting the IDF policy of telling Gazans to move in that tweet - she's basically calling them out and asking where are they supposed to go isn't she?
Sorry - I didn’t realise the last one was from that far back. Thought it was a recent one.The tweets are from 2014.
You wont be missed.It's possible for people demonstrating against the war in Gaza to do so without supporting Hamas, waving swastikas, chanting for harm to "Zionists" or supporting terror - unfortunately such things are part and parcel of the marches and the leaders of said have failed time and again to curb them.
I'm not interested in being tokenised thanks. A few hundred Jews can join the marches but their opinion does not invalidate that if the other 250,000 in the UK.
I'm also not interested in continuing this discussion. I'm not debating I'm telling you how it is, Jews don't feel safe in the UK and these marches continuing - with added gloating on top - regardless of the events of Yom Kippur (and the current deal Hamas are yet to agree) are the driving force behind it. You don't care, I know, but thems the facts.
This will be my last post in the topic. Palestine Action are a designated terrorist organisation and if you march in support of them, you have zero moral compass and that is why Jews are leaving. You are why.
It's possible for people demonstrating against the war in Gaza to do so without supporting Hamas, waving swastikas, chanting for harm to "Zionists" or supporting terror - unfortunately such things are part and parcel of the marches and the leaders of said have failed time and again to curb them.
Completely different though isn’t it? One complete crackpot decides to go to a Synagogue and attack innocent Jews. He’s shot at the scene and it’s basically case closed. Absolutely horrific what he did obviously.It amazes me the passion in which so many people have for this cause, much more passionate than our own country. It is fucking mental. Of course I want this to stop, of course I don't want a single person dying but fuck me, I have many weird mates obsessed with this, daily posts about it, yet not one posted anything last week in support of the innocent jews wrongly killed. Such a weird world we live in.
No it is not. Off the back of anti jew hate speech being allowed everywhere and go unpunished, this lunatic has committed a horrible crime. The point is, if you care so much about human life, as we all should then you can't pick and choose what humans can die or not. Several of them people I know, who are so pro Palestine celebrated Kirk's death. But they are against death remember. Only when it suits. I just hate the hypocrisy and double standards of the whole world.Completely different though isn’t it? One complete crackpot decides to go to a Synagogue and attack innocent Jews. He’s shot at the scene and it’s basically case closed. Absolutely horrific what he did obviously.
You can’t really post much to try to pressure anyone to stop that can you? Where as in Gaza people in vast numbers continue to be murdered every day. Whilst our heartless government continue to supply for the IDF and a country committing genocide.
Yeah being bothered about thousands of people including children starving and being murdered is odd.It amazes me the passion in which so many people have for this cause, much more passionate than our own country. It is fucking mental. Of course I want this to stop, of course I don't want a single person dying but fuck me, I have many weird mates obsessed with this, daily posts about it, yet not one posted anything last week in support of the innocent jews wrongly killed. Such a weird world we live in.
Point missed completely, selective care about deaths is what I find odd. The same people I know who post daily about innocent deaths in Palestine, ignored last weeks attack where innocent people died. They didn't post after Southport, so people dying in our own country by warped individuals doesn't get their passion up, but a conflict thousands of miles away does. This isn't generalising everyone, I can only go off the people I know and using them as an example.Yeah being bothered about thousands of people including children starving and being murdered is odd.
Not at all. For me this is an important test of where we are heading as a world.It amazes me the passion in which so many people have for this cause, much more passionate than our own country. It is fucking mental. Of course I want this to stop, of course I don't want a single person dying but fuck me, I have many weird mates obsessed with this, daily posts about it, yet not one posted anything last week in support of the innocent jews wrongly killed. Such a weird world we live in.
Point missed completely, selective care about deaths is what I find odd. The same people I know who post daily about innocent deaths in Palestine, ignored last weeks attack where innocent people died. They didn't post after Southport, so people dying in our own country by warped individuals doesn't get their passion up, but a conflict thousands of miles away does. This isn't generalising everyone, I can only go off the people I know and using them as an example.
As I said, from personal experience of the probably 15-20 Palestine supporters I know personally, not one of them cared to post anything last week. Yet they do around Palestine daily. I also said that isn't generalising everybody, I just find that behaviour odd.everyone i know was horrified and upset by last weeks attack in Manchester, same for every poster on here if you read that thread.
equally, everyone i know is horrified and upset about the ongoing onslaught and genocide in Gaza.
I am not stupid and understand the difference, the point was about people only caring about deaths that suit their narrative. That was all.Not at all. For me this is an important test of where we are heading as a world.
Do we support the view that might is right and can do whatever it wants to the people of the world?
Last week's attack was a horrific incident committed by a crazed individual.
The mass slaughter of Gazans is being carried out by a democratically elected government. That is a huge difference.
Had the killer in Manchester not been killed he would have been brought to justice.
Will Israel? Will the US as they are 100 percent complicit?
The Palestinians represent the weak and powerless all over the globe. If we allow them to be exterminated who will be next?
As I said, from personal experience of the probably 15-20 Palestine supporters I know personally, not one of them cared to post anything last week. Yet they do around Palestine daily. I also said that isn't generalising everybody, I just find that behaviour odd.
The fact you have shit friends and bizarrely keep them is your problem pal not ours, there has been fucking loads of derision over those murders on our doorstep.Point missed completely, selective care about deaths is what I find odd. The same people I know who post daily about innocent deaths in Palestine, ignored last weeks attack where innocent people died. They didn't post after Southport, so people dying in our own country by warped individuals doesn't get their passion up, but a conflict thousands of miles away does. This isn't generalising everyone, I can only go off the people I know and using them as an example.
Starmer used the Jewish lobby to completely destroy his predecessor. He knows more than most just how influential they can be.
He probably owes them one in that sense.
Throw in the business angle mentioned above that we are selling more weapons than ever to Israel and you can see exactly why the government are ignoring a genocide.
It will result in his defeat at the next election and rightly so. This is the biggest war crime of the century and he's pretty much supporting it.
Bang on. Starmer obviously not thought it through. I hope someone will ask him that.I thought I was in tune with British values, but today he's suggested student protests against the genocide would be un-British considering it's the anniversary of the Hamas attack on Israel. I would agree with him usually, but apparently it's not un-British to fund genocide. I think one might be worse than the other.