You weren't at the league cup game against Villa then wasn't his best day i'm sure, he'd start Wed and Saturday for me Joe needs a break stop modelling stop adverts and get back to being a goalkeeper.Phil Meup said:Exactly. To my mind he's never let us down. It's time for him to step up.chicagoblues said:If the manager doesn't have any faith on Panti as a back up why even have him on the team?
Britpop95 said:Got to be honest, as much as i'm questioning Joe's concentration levels at the moment i'd actually be far more confident with him in goal than anyone else at the club. Just an opinion like but I think if we are going to start dropping Joe then his replacement either permanently or temporarily must be a brand new keeper bought for a fair few quid.
Iker Casillas seems a bit unhappy at Madrid at the moment.......
"At the same time SOME brilliant performances come to mind" , but there was only one - the Dortmund game you mentioned (maybe the Madrid game first half but that went wrong later on). And there's the rub - people constantly exaggerate the number of "great" performances or the times he's saved us when in fact such occasions have been few and far between because we are a team whose goal doesn't come under a lot of pressure. That could be Joe's problem in that it's hard for a keeper to remain focused for 90+ minutes when he has very little to do and it makes identifying a replacement difficult i.e. Begovic who looks good because he gets a lot of opportunity to display his ability. My main criticism of Joe in the past is that he could have done better with crosses and corners,this has got forgotten in the hullabaloo surrounding the Chelsea goal but still holds true and that is where Pants has a clear advantage and now deserves a chance. We'll then get a chance to check out the other areas of his goalkeeping abilities, but for me he represents a "safe pair of hands " at the moment.Raggi01 said:Pants at munich was brilliant, with his best saves coming to mind being the first shot on target for munich from Ribery, the Kroos shot and Robben's deflected attempt at goal. All those are not guaranteed saves by Hart with some huge blunders by Hart coming to mind such as the Adam Johnson goal, the goal he gifted Carroll and his blunders vs Southampton. At the same time some brilliant performances come to mind such as his performance vs Dortmund. This makes me think that they are on level terms with the potential for both of them to go onto to outperform each other consistently.
Panti deserves a start,take Joe out of the limelight for a while to get his confidence back.Panti has never let us down and has looked good when he has had a chance!!ade_akhtar said:Costel "What do i have to do to get a game round here?" Pantilimon
roslers number plate said:Panti deserves a start,take Joe out of the limelight for a while to get his confidence back.Panti has never let us down and has looked good when he has had a chance!!ade_akhtar said:Costel "What do i have to do to get a game round here?" Pantilimon
Tim of the Oak said:forevermancity said:If you don't like your manager and he doesn't like you, whatever you job, you aren't going to perform 100%Tim of the Oak said:I must have been day dreaming and hadn't realised that it was Macini who booted the ball between Joe's legs between Southampton and West Ham. Was Roberton a factor in the three Joe let in against Norwich when Kiddo was in charge?
Joe deserves to start the season for his performances over a number of seasons and I hope he gets back to his top form. However, if Joe plays like he did for parts of last season then we another good keeper in Pants to start in the league.
We will be playing with at least one winger for many games this season so that might means the bands of the team is more attacking so an out of form keeper won't be able to be protected by a very solid midfield and defence all the time.
What like today (although Joe was badly served by his defence) and Norwich at home on the last day of last season. I want Joe to be at his best but I am afraid that RM did a lot more for Joe than Hart did for Mancini. Ever heard of a guy called Shay Given? World class used to go alongside his name.
Could it be when the left back shows a centre forward onto his good foot then gets out paced over 20 yards gets no challenge in and costs us the first goal maybe that's it.manchester blue said:Tim of the Oak said:forevermancity said:If you don't like your manager and he doesn't like you, whatever you job, you aren't going to perform 100%
What like today (although Joe was badly served by his defence) and Norwich at home on the last day of last season. I want Joe to be at his best but I am afraid that RM did a lot more for Joe than Hart did for Mancini. Ever heard of a guy called Shay Given? World class used to go alongside his name.
Why was he badly served by his defence. 3 corners and 4 shots on target the whole game and we concede twice. 50% shots to saves ratio.
Originals said:Chelsea Semi final in the FA Cup when Kompany clears off the line.
quiet_riot said:Originals said:Chelsea Semi final in the FA Cup when Kompany clears off the line.
Also made a world class save from Mata, who would've more than likely danced round Joe before slotting home.