Parking half on the kerb

The top of Union Street in Oldham is a disgrace. Sometimes as many as 4 cars at a time parked full on in the middle of the pavement. I messaged the council earlier this year and received a response of "we are aware of the problem and will monitor it as resources allow."
The state of that pavement, which is on the main thoroughfare in the middle of the town centre is now an accident waiting to happen. Someone disabled or elderly and infirm is going to have a horrible fall on it.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Its not even that its how times change. My house was built in the early 70's. It had a driveway but no garage - all the houses have them now as they were built afterwards. The top selling cars of 1973 were the Cortina Mk1 - the Escort Mk1 and the Marina. None of them are large and I'd imagine at best there was one per household at best. No planner could have envisaged a Range Rover or people being so "wealthy" to have a number of cars per house. We are all just victims of history as it were - time change and if anyone can anticipate it can they share the Euromillions numbers with me please?
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We’re in a new build, 6 years old anyway. Double garages, drive for two cars, nice houses, roads, pavements and dropped kerbs all done well. No provision for extra cars, visitors etc. People still park right on the pavements, hardly anyone puts their cars in the garages. Garages all full of stuff.
 
Jimmieblue said:
We’re in a new build, 6 years old anyway. Double garages, drive for two cars, nice houses, roads, pavements and dropped kerbs all done well. No provision for extra cars, visitors etc. People still park right on the pavements, hardly anyone puts their cars in the garages. Garages all full of stuff.
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well then that is just ignorant people isn't it? I know the new estates round here do not have any provision for parking - its just brick kerb and your front lawn next and you buy with a covenant confirming you have no on street parking.

Another pisser is we are a cul-de-sac and the new developer only got planning permission if they agreed NOT to join with our street for access so when anyone on the new cul-de-sac at the end is having work done at home they drive around to our street to vacate their drive around to our street and block the turning circle for us at the end of the road. Then they walk the few yards up the footpath onto their street. So its fine to block my street but I can't park in a way they don't like.
 
bluethrunthru said:
well then that is just ignorant people isn't it? I know the new estates round here do not have any provision for parking - its just brick kerb and your front lawn next and you buy with a covenant confirming you have no on street parking.

Another pisser is we are a cul-de-sac and the new developer only got planning permission if they agreed NOT to join with our street for access so when anyone on the new cul-de-sac at the end is having work done at home they drive around to our street to vacate their drive around to our street and block the turning circle for us at the end of the road. Then they walk the few yards up the footpath onto their street. So it’s fine to block my street but I can't park in a way they don't like.
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At least you were able to stop access. Our estate can look like an effing car park some days. Since Covid and the so-called reset, things have really changed. People work from home, more supermarket deliveries and parcel deliveries. One thing we notice though is not many children play out like they used to.
 
Jimmieblue said:
At least you were able to stop access. Our estate can look like an effing car park some days. Since Covid and the so-called reset, things have really changed. People work from home, more supermarket deliveries and parcel deliveries. One thing we notice though is not many children play out like they used to.
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well thats the difference - as I have stressed this is a quiet cul-de-sac - grown arsed adults cry because they may have to walk in the road - the same road my kids, 20 odd years ago and the next door neighbours kids only yesterday were playing in - riding bikes and scooters - hop scotch and football. What annoys me is its incomers to the area making it about them when for 30 years its never been an issue
 
bluethrunthru said:
I live on a small cul de sac. Its a 70's estate so 2/3/4 cars per house was never anticipated. However its 2025 and we are where we are. Personally I'll leave my car on the kerb then when the wife is home I'll go out and put mine on the drive at 9 or 10 pm. However I appreciate - as do other residents on our street that in order for bin lorries and emergency vehicles its best to keep it as clear as possible. There has been an issue over the last couple of years where after there was a new estate built behind us ( no vehicular access but pedestrian access) people find their door mirrors folded in by people who insist on walking up the pavement (in one case needing replacement). As its a recent development its taken that its the newbies over the back PLUS we always just walk up the street because there are so few cars come up it so its safe to do so. As an addition I would point out that today a tradesman decided kerb parking was not for him and he parked on the street. That made passing his van impossible ( he knew it was an issue coz he had folded his door mirror in ) so a patient transport ambulance returning a resident to our street had to go door to door asking him to move his van for access.

My question is - who is right? The people bending mirrors in when they have access the other side of a vehicle or the people parking on the kerb - bearing in mind some have no room for all their cars?
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it's obviously down to fourteen years of tory rule, that's the only reason i can see for it being posted in the politics thread
 
mackenzie said:
The top of Union Street in Oldham is a disgrace. Sometimes as many as 4 cars at a time parked full on in the middle of the pavement. I messaged the council earlier this year and received a response of "we are aware of the problem and will monitor it as resources allow."
The state of that pavement, which is on the main thoroughfare in the middle of the town centre is now an accident waiting to happen. Someone disabled or elderly and infirm is going to have a horrible fall on it.
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Outside the chicken laundrettes no doubt ;)
 
Last time somebody parked outside my house, one of the lads slashed their tyres and the cheeky **** came to me, complaining what I’d done, even though the **** was on my land.

Park on my land, I own it!
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
I took the dog for a walk down a street this morning and every paving slab on the outside of the pavement was cracked into at least two pieces and in some places quite dangerously tilted with up to nearly an inch of trip hazard. The slabs on the inside were mainly in full pieces except where there were driveways.

Time to start taxing vehicles based on weight and giving the money to councils to fix these things. But also homeowners should be liable for the condition of the pavement outside their driveways.
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I've been trying to get the council to repair the pavement outside our house so my mrs can get out on her buggy. Streets unadopted so they are not liable. Said I'd do it meself but told I can't..
 
stonerblue said:
I've been trying to get the council to repair the pavement outside our house so my mrs can get out on her buggy. Streets unadopted so they are not liable. Said I'd do it meself but told I can't..
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We live on an unadopted lane and the occupants are responsible for the upkeep. That’s in all of our deeds.

Would have expected all unadopted roads to be similar, so not sure why the council said you can’t
 
Kompany Car said:
Modern housing estates are a joke, most houses have drives not long enough to put a car on, the garages are not wide enough to park a car in them and get out of it without being a contortionist. The fact that there is no minimum size for a garage in the building regs says a lot.

Couple that with the obsession with SUV's and those unnecessarily large pick up trucks, which up to 10yrs ago everyone managed without but now seems mandatory (yes I know it was a tax ruse up to April 2025 re BIK) and its a recipe for disaster.

The idea of a punitive tax on vehicles with a kerb weight above 1700kg might help. I know something like this has been mooted by a government think-tank. There would however need to be a relaxation for fully electric vehicles as the battery is heavy, but not for hybrid.
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Correct, I live on a new estate in the suburbs.
It's full of Billy Big Bollocks with Range Rovers used for the school run.
Does my nut in.
 
stonerblue said:
I've been trying to get the council to repair the pavement outside our house so my mrs can get out on her buggy. Streets unadopted so they are not liable. Said I'd do it meself but told I can't..
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Go you pay a yearly management fee to an agent or just council tax.
 
Work vans are also an issue, people having them at home and taking up valuable space for people.

Hope when Nige is PM he sorts this sort of thing out.

Not British Gas ones of course, we can hang them from lampposts over night as part of this fly the flag phenomenon
 
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