Paul Dickov

[Latics Fan SJK]

A stopped clock is right twice a day

You must be on the WUM.

I know a shit load of blues and they, like the overwhelming majority on here, hold Dickov in high regard and most of them at Legendary status.

At the end of the day, yes, he wasn't the most graceful player the world has ever seen. Nor was he technically brilliant, super clinical and valued at £10m+. However, the FACT is that without THAT goal, City would, with near certainty, not be in the position they are today. That single incident alone propels him up to a level above normal praise in the minds of pretty much evert match going blue out there today.

Your argument about how it's players like Silva and Aguero who are the kind of players blues like to see week after week, and not the limited grafters like Dickov, is frankly pathetic, for many of the reasons previously mentioned.

The City of the nineties is a completely different club to the City these fans in here watch today. Back then, you couldn't attract a player of Silva's ilk and you had to makedo with grafters like Dickov.

At the end of the day, just because he was part of the team that got relegated doesn't negate his contribution in getting his team back up the ladder when the club needed it more than anything in the world. Before the Arabs arrived, it was that single moment that was the highlight of many a City fan in recent times.

Not only your stance on how you view Dickov in such low regard is staggering, but your arguments to back up your stance have absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

If Aguero left for Madrid this summer with City failing to retain the title, I'd imagine a few blues will label Aguero as a legend in their eyes for the most recent big moment in City's history. I wouldn't blame them either, in the same way I understand the label being attached to Dickov, too.

On a final note, I'm not quite sure why you keep referring "the likes of you" as a bad thing to the other blues in here. It's those "likes" that share the same, understandable opinion and, in actual fact, it's "people like you" who's coming across in the negative way, if anything.

I've mentioned in at least 3 separate posts 4 or 5 players from the same era as Dicky who I rate more highly than him. Bishop, Weaver, Horlock, Cook and Goater. If I was a "rag" or a "wum" why would I say I rate those players?

The fact is, sorry, the FACT is that the players mentioned were far more talented and contributed more to our relative success in gaining promotions over the WHOLE SEASON. Dicky scored the goal everyone remembers, but for 95% of his contribution he was an extremely poor player. Embarassingly poor.

I've got lots of mates who think the same who went to games regularly in those days. It's not the traditional City fans view, but I don't really care what the general public's view is. I saw the games myself and more than capable to make my own judgements.

And yet without THAT moment of magic from Dickov, the likes of Bishop, Weaver, Horlock, Cook & Goater would be an even more distant memory.

A player does not have to be the best at everything he does to be heralded a "Legend". It just so happens that the one, major incident of recent times (pre-takeover) happened to be down to that man, Dickov, thus earning legendary status amongst the majoirty of fans, and understandably so.

 

[southstander93]

Given the choice between putting Paul Dickov upfront as part of a strike force, who will work his socks off for 90 minutes, give 110% and sweat blood for the team, and putting Mario Balotelli upfront as part of a strike force, who will maybe show some interest for 10-15 minutes a game, and for the other 75 will argue with the manager, throw tantrums, try and get booked and maybe even stamp on players, I know exactly who I would choose. Sure, Balotelli would offer more technically in those 15 minutes than Dickov could in the whole game, but there is more to football than that.

Dickov epitomised everything about us at that time. Below average and cheap, but passionate and dedicated. That is the exact reason why I became a city fan, because there was something about this club that seemed so different to any other, and Dickov summed up everything we were about.

I loved watching him play, I loved watching them all play. Were we shit? Yes. Did I care? No. Would I want us to go back to watching the sort of players we watched in those days? Absolutely not (although I do miss being everyones second favourite team, and being the underdog). I am ecstatic about the team we have now, and the fact that we are champions, and that goal in May was without doubt the greatest moment of my life, but without these shit players and relegations, promotions, and Dickov's 94th minute equaliser, we wouldn't be where we are now. The calamitous, unpredictable, self destructive, 'typical city' we saw throughout most of the 90's and early 00's is what made our club so loved by everyone, it is a big part of what gives us an incredible, rich history, but one completely different to any other club. Without these shit times, I dont think we would be blessed with these incredibly good times. As someone posted earlier, something the man himself said when they met him at wembley, 'the fans are gonna get everything they deserve for their loyal support', and we have. That to me, is exactly why Paul Dickov is a city legend. For his fight, dedication, and love for this club, and of course, for THAT goal.

 

[Santiago Street]

Dicky will always be loved by blues

Whether he's a "legend" or not is merely semantics

He could walk on the pitch at HT in 10 or 20 years time and he'd get a massive ovation - that for me is the acid test

Mario wouldn't pass that same test

 

[Shaelumstash]

Given the choice between putting Paul Dickov upfront as part of a strike force, who will work his socks off for 90 minutes, give 110% and sweat blood for the team, and putting Mario Balotelli upfront as part of a strike force, who will maybe show some interest for 10-15 minutes a game, and for the other 75 will argue with the manager, throw tantrums, try and get booked and maybe even stamp on players, I know exactly who I would choose. Sure, Balotelli would offer more technically in those 15 minutes than Dickov could in the whole game, but there is more to football than that.

Dickov epitomised everything about us at that time. Below average and cheap, but passionate and dedicated. That is the exact reason why I became a city fan, because there was something about this club that seemed so different to any other, and Dickov summed up everything we were about.

I loved watching him play, I loved watching them all play. Were we shit? Yes. Did I care? No. Would I want us to go back to watching the sort of players we watched in those days? Absolutely not (although I do miss being everyones second favourite team, and being the underdog). I am ecstatic about the team we have now, and the fact that we are champions, and that goal in May was without doubt the greatest moment of my life, but without these shit players and relegations, promotions, and Dickov's 94th minute equaliser, we wouldn't be where we are now. The calamitous, unpredictable, self destructive, 'typical city' we saw throughout most of the 90's and early 00's is what made our club so loved by everyone, it is a big part of what gives us an incredible, rich history, but one completely different to any other club. Without these shit times, I dont think we would be blessed with these incredibly good times. As someone posted earlier, something the man himself said when they met him at wembley, 'the fans are gonna get everything they deserve for their loyal support', and we have. That to me, is exactly why Paul Dickov is a city legend. For his fight, dedication, and love for this club, and of course, for THAT goal.

I completely agree with your point about the story of us dropping so low helped to make winning the league all the more special. I'm proud of how loyal the City fans stayed during the darkest time ever at the club. I strongly believe it was the fans faith and dedication to the club, no matter how shit we were, that helped persuade Sheik Mansour to buy the club.

You see, my history of being a City fan is different to yours. I was a born in to being a City fan because my dad was one, and his dad before him. I had no choice. Neither did my dad, he was born on Lloyd St South right next to Maine Rd and followed us all over the country and in Europe too. I was brought up with stories of legends like Lee, Bell, Summerbee, Trautman, Young, Watson. I grew up watching players like Lake, White, Quinn, Curle and Rosler.

So following City to the murky depths of the third division, I didn't think those players were good enough to play for my club. I thought that era is something that should be remembered, but certainly not celebrated. The dedication of the fans should be celebrated, but certainly not the quality of the players. People look back with rose tinted spectacles about how great that era was, well I remember the whole of Maine Rd singing "We're shit and we're sick of it" numerous times, and I heard it on numerous away days.

It depends what your view of the club is, and how highly you rate us, and what you think the fans of this great club deserve. For me, I think we deserve better than talentless grafters with no ability whatsoever. I'll support the club and the players no matter what, but I certainly won't call Dickov a City "legend" because it is disrespectful to the likes of Trautman, Meredith, Swift, Book, Bell, Summerbee, Lee, Watson and Young, to throw Dickov in the same category.

 

[sir baconface]

Given the choice between putting Paul Dickov upfront as part of a strike force, who will work his socks off for 90 minutes, give 110% and sweat blood for the team, and putting Mario Balotelli upfront as part of a strike force, who will maybe show some interest for 10-15 minutes a game, and for the other 75 will argue with the manager, throw tantrums, try and get booked and maybe even stamp on players, I know exactly who I would choose. Sure, Balotelli would offer more technically in those 15 minutes than Dickov could in the whole game, but there is more to football than that.

Dickov epitomised everything about us at that time. Below average and cheap, but passionate and dedicated. That is the exact reason why I became a city fan, because there was something about this club that seemed so different to any other, and Dickov summed up everything we were about.

I loved watching him play, I loved watching them all play. Were we shit? Yes. Did I care? No. Would I want us to go back to watching the sort of players we watched in those days? Absolutely not (although I do miss being everyones second favourite team, and being the underdog). I am ecstatic about the team we have now, and the fact that we are champions, and that goal in May was without doubt the greatest moment of my life, but without these shit players and relegations, promotions, and Dickov's 94th minute equaliser, we wouldn't be where we are now. The calamitous, unpredictable, self destructive, 'typical city' we saw throughout most of the 90's and early 00's is what made our club so loved by everyone, it is a big part of what gives us an incredible, rich history, but one completely different to any other club. Without these shit times, I dont think we would be blessed with these incredibly good times. As someone posted earlier, something the man himself said when they met him at wembley, 'the fans are gonna get everything they deserve for their loyal support', and we have. That to me, is exactly why Paul Dickov is a city legend. For his fight, dedication, and love for this club, and of course, for THAT goal.

That's a great summary of then and now. Enjoy the present, cherish the past. Nice one, southstander.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Given the choice between putting Paul Dickov upfront as part of a strike force, who will work his socks off for 90 minutes, give 110% and sweat blood for the team, and putting Mario Balotelli upfront as part of a strike force, who will maybe show some interest for 10-15 minutes a game, and for the other 75 will argue with the manager, throw tantrums, try and get booked and maybe even stamp on players, I know exactly who I would choose. Sure, Balotelli would offer more technically in those 15 minutes than Dickov could in the whole game, but there is more to football than that.

Dickov epitomised everything about us at that time. Below average and cheap, but passionate and dedicated. That is the exact reason why I became a city fan, because there was something about this club that seemed so different to any other, and Dickov summed up everything we were about.

I loved watching him play, I loved watching them all play. Were we shit? Yes. Did I care? No. Would I want us to go back to watching the sort of players we watched in those days? Absolutely not (although I do miss being everyones second favourite team, and being the underdog). I am ecstatic about the team we have now, and the fact that we are champions, and that goal in May was without doubt the greatest moment of my life, but without these shit players and relegations, promotions, and Dickov's 94th minute equaliser, we wouldn't be where we are now. The calamitous, unpredictable, self destructive, 'typical city' we saw throughout most of the 90's and early 00's is what made our club so loved by everyone, it is a big part of what gives us an incredible, rich history, but one completely different to any other club. Without these shit times, I dont think we would be blessed with these incredibly good times. As someone posted earlier, something the man himself said when they met him at wembley, 'the fans are gonna get everything they deserve for their loyal support', and we have. That to me, is exactly why Paul Dickov is a city legend. For his fight, dedication, and love for this club, and of course, for THAT goal.

That's a great summary of then and now. Enjoy the present, cherish the past. Nice one, southstander.

No ambition, happy with second best. Shame

 

[sir baconface]

I've got lots of mates who think the same who went to games regularly in those days. It's not the traditional City fans view, but I don't really care what the general public's view is. I saw the games myself and more than capable to make my own judgements.

Hard to get beyond those first five words without falling about laughing.

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

Given the choice between putting Paul Dickov upfront as part of a strike force, who will work his socks off for 90 minutes, give 110% and sweat blood for the team, and putting Mario Balotelli upfront as part of a strike force, who will maybe show some interest for 10-15 minutes a game, and for the other 75 will argue with the manager, throw tantrums, try and get booked and maybe even stamp on players, I know exactly who I would choose. Sure, Balotelli would offer more technically in those 15 minutes than Dickov could in the whole game, but there is more to football than that.

Dickov epitomised everything about us at that time. Below average and cheap, but passionate and dedicated. That is the exact reason why I became a city fan, because there was something about this club that seemed so different to any other, and Dickov summed up everything we were about.

I loved watching him play, I loved watching them all play. Were we shit? Yes. Did I care? No. Would I want us to go back to watching the sort of players we watched in those days? Absolutely not (although I do miss being everyones second favourite team, and being the underdog). I am ecstatic about the team we have now, and the fact that we are champions, and that goal in May was without doubt the greatest moment of my life, but without these shit players and relegations, promotions, and Dickov's 94th minute equaliser, we wouldn't be where we are now. The calamitous, unpredictable, self destructive, 'typical city' we saw throughout most of the 90's and early 00's is what made our club so loved by everyone, it is a big part of what gives us an incredible, rich history, but one completely different to any other club. Without these shit times, I dont think we would be blessed with these incredibly good times. As someone posted earlier, something the man himself said when they met him at wembley, 'the fans are gonna get everything they deserve for their loyal support', and we have. That to me, is exactly why Paul Dickov is a city legend. For his fight, dedication, and love for this club, and of course, for THAT goal.

That's a great summary of then and now. Enjoy the present, cherish the past. Nice one, southstander.

No ambition, happy with second best. Shame

Yep. WUMmery confirmed.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Dickov is a legend

 

[Shaelumstash]

I've got lots of mates who think the same who went to games regularly in those days. It's not the traditional City fans view, but I don't really care what the general public's view is. I saw the games myself and more than capable to make my own judgements.

Hard to get beyond those first five words without falling about laughing.

Oh stop it, my sides are aching