Salford_Blue
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Just watch us lead the way in a few years, when Paddy steps up...after learning his trade as the right-hand man to Pep (obviously!!!)
That's why I said it might sound familiar to some of you.Mad Eyed Screamer said:taconinja said:Just want to note that the Rooney Rule doesn't guarantee anyone being hired.
Here's how things used to work in the NFL. It might even sound familiar to some of you. There was this very small pool of men who were head coaches, ie managers in the NFL, and they would regularly be fired for underperformance... and then be rehired the next season by another club with basically no interview process whatsoever. It went like that for decades. It was nothing to do with being good enough. Those names were familiar. They had been in the coaching game of musical chairs despite how well they did the job. And it was next to impossible to break into the circle unless you were a chosen protege. What the Rooney Rule did was force owners to expand their interviewing process, and what it really did was open the owners' eyes to the fact that you didn't need to hire someone like Neil Warnock again or Harry Redknapp again just because they were a known commodity. It helped both Black candidates and White candidates get opportunities.
As for token interviews, the NFL fines the owner millions if they fuck around with people like that.
We have a similar system in the UK. It is called the ''Rag Rule'' where anyone who has played for the Rags is guaranteed a job / jobs in management regardless of lack of experience / success.
Which brings us back to Paul Ince.......
I'm With Stupid said:One thing that must be frustrating for aspiring black coaches is the way that some of the black managers who have had success have then gone on to basically throw their careers away. Ruud Gullet became the manager of Chelsea and finished 6th in his first season, winning the FA Cup, and then led them to 2nd the next year. Then he had a tough time at Newcastle and just left management for 4 years. Then he worked in Holland, the USA and finally Russia, with huge gaps between each. It seems that there was obviously a talented manager somewhere in there, and yet he simply didn't seem to give a shit. Similarly Frank Rijkaard. Won 2 La Ligas and the Champions League with Barcelona. He was basically the best manager in Europe at that time, so what did he do with that? He went to manage in Turkey for a club that basically sacked him because he failed to win the league at his first attempt. Then he went to manage Saudi Arabia when he no doubt could've had his pick of jobs in Europe and currently he works in a boarding school ffs. It's a long way down for a man that was considered the best manager in Europe less than 10 years ago.Matty said:If there were a large number of highly qualified, well respected, black coaches/managers sitting on the unemployment pile then perhaps this argument might carry a little more weight, however as it is there doesn't seem to be.
Hell, maybe this racism is worse that we thought and even a Champions League winner isn't getting considered for jobs. But I can't imagine that's the case.