Pele

des hardi said:
i am really starting to hate this "muppet in denial".pele is an ass

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Pele says "Lionel Messi is not the greatest ever player"


So he's using international records as a marker and yet makes a quote like this :-

“George Best was the greatest player in the world.”

Best who won what internationally ? (and yes NI were not the quality of Argentina, but then again Argentina were not the quality of the great Brazilian sides) so he needs to make his mind up, I like Pele, he was one of the greatest players ever, but he needs to get his head from up his arse at times.
 
itisrising said:
Do any of you believe that he is the greatest player to ever grace the earth? He played in the sixties where ,lets be frank, were poor. His goal tally was incredible but was he the greatest?
In Brazil he's not rated as so. They rate Garrincha as the greatest ever, as does Pele himself.
 
Always amuses me when 20-30 year olds say Pele is the best player ever without ever seeing him play.

This is the guy that counts his goals in reserves and the army for his statistics.

The year where everyone raved over Pele in the world cup was because of his age, but he wasn't the best player in the squad, on two occasions.

As for his comments he's always making the most ridiculous statements ever. I stopped listening to the utter wanker when he said Nicky Butt is the best midfielder in the world
 
Crouchinho said:
Always amuses me when 20-30 year olds say Pele is the best player ever without ever seeing him play.

This is the guy that counts his goals in reserves and the army for his statistics.

The year where everyone raved over Pele in the world cup was because of his age, but he wasn't the best player in the squad, on two occasions.

As for his comments he's always making the most ridiculous statements ever. I stopped listening to the utter wanker when he said Nicky Butt is the best midfielder in the world

And by the same token it always amuses me, when you hear someone who probably never saw him play, say he was overrated, or that he only succeeded because football was shit back then, and never played in Europe.

I'm no lover of him as a person, and he does say some nonsense, but he's argubly the most complete footballer to ever player the game.
 
Comes across incredibly arrogant, always making ridiculous statements as someone else said.

Some may say he's earned the right to be arrogant but he should show a bit more respect to other great players past and present.
 
Who gives a fuck, Maradona's the best of all time and Messi's on his way to eclipsing everyone else touch wood, 3 consecutive World Player of the Year's, just need an Argentina side to turn up at a World Cup in the next 10 years and he'll quite rightly be the greatest.
 
Pele isn't even top 20 for me in the greatest players of all time list. 500 + goals in friendlies and tour matches and he adds it to his career scoring record. Smacks of desperation that. Add to the fact he played against poor players of the 50's, 60's and 70's. Back when players went to the match from the bar and had poor nutrition and training methods.

Oh did i mention he played in the regional league in Brasil and racked his goals up. Brasil didn't even have a national league when Pele was around.

I would say players like the Ronaldo's, Ronaldinho, Maradonna, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Eto'o, Henry, Zidane, Cruff, Rivaldo, Baggio, Del Piero, Villa, Maldini are all better. Probably more tbh.
 
IH8MUFC said:
Pele isn't even top 20 for me in the greatest players of all time list. 500 + goals in friendlies and tour matches and he adds it to his career scoring record. Smacks of desperation that. Add to the fact he played against poor players of the 50's, 60's and 70's. Back when players went to the match from the bar and had poor nutrition and training methods.

Oh did i mention he played in the regional league in Brasil and racked his goals up. Brasil didn't even have a national league when Pele was around.

I would say players like the Ronaldo's, Ronaldinho, Maradonna, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Eto'o, Henry, Zidane, Cruff, Rivaldo, Baggio, Del Piero, Villa, Maldini are all better. Probably more tbh.

Oh no, you didn't. (Ok UG, breathe deeply...)
 
How many of his goals were friendlys etc?
I think its strange how he includes every goal hes ever scored and harps on about it as if all of those goals were in professional competition matches, but I am way after his time and havnt seen him play.
 
manclad said:
I 'm sure some that have posted on this thread are too young to know how good Pele was .
On the greatest stage of all (the FIFA World Cup)he is the only player to win 3 medals.Watch him on youtube in the 1970 World Cup, he and the whole Brazilian team are by far the best team/player that ever graced the "beautiful game ".
Rivelino,Tostao,Carlos Alberto,Jarziniho,Gerson are the best football team ever.
Not only winners of the last( and holders in perptuity)of the Jules Rimet trophy, but also the best football team ever.

Spot on.

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Pele's bizarre predictions are my favourite things about him:

10) China 2002

Pele Prediction: China will qualify for the next round from their 2002 World Cup group.

Outcome: China finish bottom of Group C with no wins, no draws, no points, no goals, as well as -9 in their goal-difference column.

9) Spain 1998

Pele Prediction: Spain are favourites for the 1998 World Cup in France.

Outcome: Spain humiliatingly dumped out in the first round after losing to Nigeria, and drawing with Paraguay.

8) Colombia To Live American Dream

Pele Prediction: Colombia will win the 1994 World Cup in the USA.

Outcome: Colombia exit the competition in the first round, finishing bottom of their group. Their defender Andres Escobar is also tragically shot dead by an angry fan after Colombia return home.

7) Argentina, France & World Cup 2002

Pele Prediction: Argentina & France will both reach the final.

Outcome: Both countries eliminated in the first round, France without even scoring a goal.

6) Escape To Victory

Pele Prediction: During the famous film starring Sylvester Stallone and Michael Caine, Allies star Pele is brutally fouled in the first half by the Nazi opponents. The injured Brazilian claims there is no way he can continue and is carried off. The Allies are 4-0 down, and a recovery is deemed impossible.

Outcome: Pele returns in the second half and inspires his team to an improbable comeback, even scoring a stunning bicycle kick. Even in fiction, Pele's predictions go wrong.



5) Ronaldo Is Finished

Pele Prediction: Ronaldo will never play football again, and his career is over, following a serious injury for Milan in February 2008.

Outcome: Ronaldo returns in March 2009 for Corinthians, scoring 10 goals in his first 14 games to win the Campeonato Paulista.

4) Nii Lamptey – ‘The New Pele’

Pele Prediction: After starring in the 1991 Under-17 World Cup, which also featured Alessandro Del Piero, Pele proclaims Ghana youngster Lamptey as his successor, ‘The New Pele’.

Outcome: What happens next goes down in football infamy. Lamptey spectacularly fails to fulfil his talent, believing himself that he was cursed by dark forces. The midfielder shifts around clubs such as PSV, Aston Villa, Coventry, Venezia and Ankaragucu, without success, and endures tragedy in his personal life, as two of his children die.

3) Nicky Barmby - Up There With Zidane, Maldini & Ronaldo

Pele Prediction: Nicky Barmby will become a world class star.

Outcome: Nicky Barmby becomes nothing more than an average player, winning 23 England caps, and never even appearing in a World Cup.

2) Africa Will Rule

Pele Prediction: An African nation will win the World Cup before the year 2000.

Outcome: It is now 2010, and an African country has still yet to get past the quarter-final.

1) Brazil & World Cup 2002

Pele Prediction: Brazil won’t even get past the group stages.

Outcome: Brazil win the World Cup.
 
His latest gem was to say Messi is nowhere near him until he matches his goal scoring record!

Messi or Pele............................................errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..Jesus...Fuck off Pele with your self righteous shite
 

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