Pellegrini is the new manager (Malaga Newspaper reports) 4.

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The only problem we had with zonal marking is the 'flick on' zone before the near post.

We never seemed to cope too well with that particular area. The system itself was very good and the stats back that up.

You look at the goal in the FA Cup final, Cavani's goal and the Ajax goals, all in that same little flick on area. That was the weakness, not the system as a whole.
 
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Ric said:
NipHolmes said:
Ric said:
Prior to zonal marking, no one scored from a set piece against us. Ever.

Great stat.

I think zonal does work but in big games with pressure a player can get anxious. I'm searching for reasons because it seems that in big games we are open to it. Run of the mill game in the prem it seems sound. Odd really. The Cavani goal was atrocious defending.

But was that individual error, rather than the system itself? We had the best defensive record three seasons running. For all Mancini's faults he deserves credit for that, and zonal marking was a significant factor.

I have no preference either way, but it seemed like people used it as an easy brush to tar us with. Just because it's alien to washed out pundits who have an English approach to defending doesn't mean it was necessarily wrong. Don't have the stats to hand, but would be interested to see if teams going man for man conceded less from set pieces.

Individual Ric, the system merely left them more exposed to error imo. I think a cool head is needed for success, when a game is high pressure and nerves are set in I can see it being a big problem. Zonal marking itself has, as you say, served us well. Last two season have been a credit to us.
 
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At end of Fernandinho Guardian article......
City, meanwhile, will confirm Manuel Pellegrini's appointment as their manager on Monday or Tuesday. While negotiations to install the former Málaga coach as Roberto Mancini's successor are proceeding smoothly a minor technicality slowed progress.
Also Navas fee rises to £16m max
 
Re: Pellegrini is the new manager (Malaga Newspaper reports) 3.

Ric said:
NipHolmes said:
Ric said:
Prior to zonal marking, no one scored from a set piece against us. Ever.

Great stat.

I think zonal does work but in big games with pressure a player can get anxious. I'm searching for reasons because it seems that in big games we are open to it. Run of the mill game in the prem it seems sound. Odd really. The Cavani goal was atrocious defending.

But was that individual error, rather than the system itself? We had the best defensive record three seasons running. For all Mancini's faults he deserves credit for that, and zonal marking was a significant factor.

I have no preference either way, but it seemed like people used it as an easy brush to tar us with. Just because it's alien to washed out pundits who have an English approach to defending doesn't mean it was necessarily wrong. Don't have the stats to hand, but would be interested to see if teams going man for man conceded less from set pieces.

The same pundits who say you should get "touch tight" but would then say "that's a penalty all day long".
 
Re: Pellegrini is the new manager (Malaga Newspaper reports) 3.

Ric said:
NipHolmes said:
Ric said:
Prior to zonal marking, no one scored from a set piece against us. Ever.

Great stat.

I think zonal does work but in big games with pressure a player can get anxious. I'm searching for reasons because it seems that in big games we are open to it. Run of the mill game in the prem it seems sound. Odd really. The Cavani goal was atrocious defending.

But was that individual error, rather than the system itself? We had the best defensive record three seasons running. For all Mancini's faults he deserves credit for that, and zonal marking was a significant factor.

I have no preference either way, but it seemed like people used it as an easy brush to tar us with. Just because it's alien to washed out pundits who have an English approach to defending doesn't mean it was necessarily wrong. Don't have the stats to hand, but would be interested to see if teams going man for man conceded less from set pieces.
10/10 sir.

I also don't care much either way, but our defensive record under Mancini does point to it being successful. Luckily it seems modern coaches seem to go this way, and although Pellegrini may not be modern age wise, he does seem to adopt a modern style of football.

Ultimately, don't change what's not broken.
 
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cleavers said:
Ric said:
NipHolmes said:
Great stat.

I think zonal does work but in big games with pressure a player can get anxious. I'm searching for reasons because it seems that in big games we are open to it. Run of the mill game in the prem it seems sound. Odd really. The Cavani goal was atrocious defending.

But was that individual error, rather than the system itself? We had the best defensive record three seasons running. For all Mancini's faults he deserves credit for that, and zonal marking was a significant factor.

I have no preference either way, but it seemed like people used it as an easy brush to tar us with. Just because it's alien to washed out pundits who have an English approach to defending doesn't mean it was necessarily wrong. Don't have the stats to hand, but would be interested to see if teams going man for man conceded less from set pieces.
10/10 sir.

I also don't care much either way, but our defensive record under Mancini does point to it being successful. Luckily it seems modern coaches seem to go this way, and although Pellegrini may not be modern age wise, he does seem to adopt a modern style of football.

Ultimately, don't change what's not broken.

Pellegrini always use zonal marking, check this, one of you made this video where you can see how he organize his teams and other article about how Pellegrini deal with his teams normally:
First the Video: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjI2yKMa1Zs[/youtube]


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Is the ‘anti-Mourinho’ the answer for Manchester City?

Written by Thomas Hallett

Manuel Pellegrini

Manuel Pellegrini’s wealth of experience will stand him in good stead when he takes over at Manchester City. The lack of trophies won’t matter, nor will his solitary season at a ‘big’ European club count against him in the Premier League – at least it shouldn’t. Manchester City, provided they take on a realistic approach in what they want from Pellegrini, could reap the rewards of one of Europe’s better managers in the game today.

There is nothing not to like about the Chilean manager. He is the anti-Mourinho, persistent in his desire to steer clear of the eye of the storm and remain utterly dignified in his attitude to management. Manchester City, for their achievements with Roberto Mancini and his recent firing, do not want to hold themselves in the same line as Chelsea. Pellegrini won’t write headlines for the wrong reasons, accusing his counterparts of voyeurism, exposing club captains and declaring war on anyone who seeks to challenge him. Pellegrini is here for the football, and that should be the biggest headline.
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Manchester City need to regroup and rediscover the level of football they reached during their title-winning season. Under Pellegrini, the emphasis will be on players like David Silva and, should he arrive, Isco. The biggest breakthrough this coming season, however, will be in taking Sergio Aguero back to the top as the team’s premier striker.

And success is almost guaranteed under Pellegrini on this front. He has a sensational record of getting the best out of his players, overcoming obstacles and delivering aesthetically pleasing football. His teams at Villarreal and Malaga were built around small schemers, excellent technicians in the midfield just ahead of a robust central midfielder or midfield pairing. Mancini must be wondering what he had to do to get Fernandinho last summer; under Pellegrini, the soon-to-arrive Shakhtar player will be City’s Jeremy Toulalan, their Marcos Senna: the undeniable and necessary balance to the flair forwards.

If this is a project Manchester City are serious about, Pellegrini will deliver success on numerous fronts. The most obvious goal is to reclaim the Premier League title and justifying the incredible outlay by the club over the years; many have been quick to question whether Fernandinho is worth the reported £34 million. Manchester City will also need to become a force in Europe, doing away with the tag of disappointment from their two recent ventures into the Champions League. Pellegrini has a phenomenal record in UEFA’s premier club competition. Some will look to Real Madrid, but that short spell does little to discredit the fine work put in with Villarreal: the excellent football on display at El Madrigal, the Champions League semifinal. It’s difficult to forget Malaga’s fairy tale adventure last season, and there is almost a certainty that Pellegrini will pull off something equally spectacular with a club and squad who dwarf Malaga on every front.

One of the biggest successes, though, could be Pellegrini’s promotion of youth players. Again, if City are serious and look past the somewhat idiotic notion that all managerial appointments work in cycles of two or three years, they’ll see a rediscovery of the youth system at the club. For all their wealth and ability in the market, the goal should still be to bring through academy players. John Guidetti is a name who could benefit greatly from Pellegrini’s presence at the club.

The media in England might find some disappointment in Pellegrini, as the manager will do little to feed their appetite for a controversial story. But that’s exactly what City will want. The club will be represented by one of Europe’s classiest and most likeable managers. Pellegrini won’t plant battles with his players in interviews and he most certainly won’t lose or create divisions within the dressing room. There will be some who won’t easily forget the short spell with Real Madrid, but that was a project that was never truly Pellegrini’s, and City should learn a lot from the lack of control the manager had at the Bernabeu. It’s been said that if Jose Mourinho had not been available following his single season at Inter, Pellegrini would likely have stayed on. Barcelona, too, are not oblivious to the Chilean’s credentials, singling him out as a possible replacement for Tito Vilanova should his health continue to play a factor in his management at the Camp Nou.

Pellegrini has a history of overachieving, doing so much more than what is expected of him. Martin Demichelis was a player reborn at Malaga, Borja Valero’s career was turned around completely at Villarreal, and Joaquin experienced his best years in Spanish football under Pellegrini at Malaga.

Pellegrini finally gets the reward he’s been deserving of: a very real opportunity at silverware in European football. There’s absolutely no doubt that Manchester City have made one of the best managerial appointments of the summer.
 
Re: Pellegrini is the new manager (Malaga Newspaper reports) 3.

Very pleased that he seems to be someone that ain't about making big headlines( except for football reasons of course).
 
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NoahCity said:
Very pleased that he seems to be someone that ain't about making big headlines( except for football reasons of course).



in fact his press conferences can be very boring. If they look for scandals they are doomed with Pellegrini.
 
Re: Pellegrini is the new manager (Malaga Newspaper reports) 3.

off to Corfu for a week hope when we get back this is done and dusted along with cavani :)
 
Re: Pellegrini is the new manager (Malaga Newspaper reports) 3.

the problem with zonal is that your weaker players in the air can be exploited, in our case its Yaya, he doesn't judge the flight of the ball well and doesn't realize he's the "active" player before its too late (see ajax)

With man marking your best headers seek the ball and actively try to get on the end of it, so there is no confusion on whose taking charge of the situation.
Both can work but it depends on the players
 
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