Pellegrini - The English Managers Syndrome

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Again it's opinions. Silva at no point played better, in my opinion. The team looked better, and we got a goal, but we were playing a risky game with 5 attacking players and 1 CM. Especially as the CM was the aging Yaya.

He got the response he needed from throwing the kitchen sink. And it was time to go back to having 2 CMs. He then pulled the worst performing attacking player.

Just before Silva was subbed he made 2 terrible passes in the final Third and we lost the ball. I don't know where the Silva got better narrative comes from. Can you point to actual positive things he did? Or is this a generic he was getting better?

I have to confess I was calling for the introduction of one of the Ferns as soon as we equalised. West Ham had sat back defending their lead so going gung-ho pull back the game was fine as there was nothing to lose but there was no guarantee WHU would continue to sit back. It would have been criminal to sacrifice the point we had just regained. I didn't approve of the starting line up but I am happy to be in minority that thought that substution was sensible.
 
I don't disagree with the notion of actually playing a midfield three but I would disagree that Yaya was ineffective today: he was our most involved player again. He made as many key passes as any other City player, he made tackles, interceptions, clearances, plenty of ball recoveries. His pass completion was lower than normal but I think that was down to the number of long passes he attempted.

He wasn't perfect and he got done on the opening goal but he was not alone in failing to prevent it.

He was more effective than Delph.
Toure was at fault in the build up to the first goal. Not just the one one one but earlier in the build up and that was a microcosm of his entire game. I can't understand why he is being played in games like this which are going to be high intensity games in the middle of the park. Players just ghost past him and he can't support our man in possession either unless the build up play is slow.

There are other things that aren't right but this is a big factor and the easiest one remedied simply by dropping him and using him off the bench when his energy levels will be higher. It's going to damage our season beyond repair if we keep starting him
 
Again it's opinions. Silva at no point played better, in my opinion. The team looked better, and we got a goal, but we were playing a risky game with 5 attacking players and 1 CM. Especially as the CM was the aging Yaya.
I too thought that was madness, but as I said above our attacking players don't do enough defending, not by a long way.
 
Again it's opinions. Silva at no point played better, in my opinion. The team looked better, and we got a goal, but we were playing a risky game with 5 attacking players and 1 CM. Especially as the CM was the aging Yaya.

He got the response he needed from throwing the kitchen sink. And it was time to go back to having 2 CMs. He then pulled the worst performing attacking player.

Just before Silva was subbed he made 2 terrible passes in the final Third and we lost the ball. I don't know where the Silva got better narrative comes from. Can you point to actual positive things he did? Or is this a generic he was getting better?

The aging Yaya who shouldn't have been part of a midfield 2? Let alone a midfield 1? A team set up where we were fortunate to get a result. Silva should have been subbed before Delph was, and, in my opinion, for Fernandinho, to allow Yaya forward. He was doing a hell of a lot better than Silva. Silva had more space and was more direct in the build up to the equalising goal. With him on we had sustained pressure, which lessened after he was subbed. Better is a relative term as he was dire all game.

I'm not saying we should have stayed with a 4-1-5 formation, we shouldn't have needed to use such a daft formation. My point is that Pellegrini set the team up poorly, failed to notice poor performers and made very odd substitutions.
 
I don't disagree with the notion of actually playing a midfield three but I would disagree that Yaya was ineffective today: he was our most involved player again. He made as many key passes as any other City player, he made tackles, interceptions, clearances, plenty of ball recoveries. His pass completion was lower than normal but I think that was down to the number of long passes he attempted.
Agreed, he was nowhere near the worst City player.
 
I have to confess I was calling for the introduction of one of the Ferns as soon as we equalised. West Ham had sat back defending their lead so going gung-ho pull back the game was fine as there was nothing to lose but there was no guarantee WHU would continue to sit back. It would have been criminal to sacrifice the point we had just regained. I didn't approve of the starting line up but I am happy to be in minority that thought that substution was sensible.
People just want to moan. I get he doesn't so everything everyone wants, but even when he makes the right choice, they moan. That anyone can question or begrudge subbing out an attacking player after getting the goal he wanted for taking the risk is mind boggling. In fairness, he should have just pulled Dave in the first place for Kelechi. But he probably figured, Dave had moments of magic in him, so Delph was sacrificed. Then he got his result for taking a big risk, and he reverted to balance.

This is such a common sense decision no one should question.
 
How would you suggest the midfield 3 line up? Flat? In a triangle with a single base or a 2 at the base with one in front. And where in the 3 do you see Yaya?

I'd have Yaya in the middle of Delph and Dinho and vary the shape from fairly flat to both a triangle and inverted triangle depending on the circumstances.

I'd change the wide players depending on opponents and give them license to roam inside, with Delph and Dinho detailed to move across and help full backs defensively as required.

I'd limit the use of Silva and KDB at the same time. I'd even bench them both to start some away games.

I don't know if that approach would succeed but it matters not a jot because I don't get to decide and it won't happen so I can't be wrong ;-)
 
Agreed, he was nowhere near the worst City player.
I think his non-existent work off the ball made him the worst player by far. And his game makes it very difficult for the other players in midfield to perform. It also exposes slow defenders like Demichelis to players running directly at him.
 
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