Pellers press conference

Re: Pellers press confernce

SWP's back said:
NipHolmes said:
SWP's back said:
I can see why they do it yes, but it doesn't make it any less annoying.

What is more annoying is some people pretending it doesn't go on. Much like the Rooney & RVP elbow Vs the Ade & Balo "stamp" etc.

Again the best seller analogy can be used.

If you're selling an item do you
a) concentrate on the positives
b) talk about the negatives

United can do no wrong. If they spend it's because they can due to their massive revenue streams. If they lose a match, it's no problem because their winning mentality will help them prevail. If they win it's because they're great. If they are given a dodgy penalty it's part if the game and it evens itself out. If they are not given a penalty then try referees too slow or had an off day (couldn't handle the pressure, let the fans make his decision for him etc). If they sign a player it's because he's part of a masterplan and will become great, if they miss on a player it's because of money.

Cut a long story short, spin is their main attribute. Everything is sugarcoated red. David Moyes rapid rise in stock is the epitome of it. Laudrup and Martinez both have won more than him and both were equally as hamstrung financially. Moyes was a steady eddie and seen as a good manager but not great. Ask any United, Chelsea and Arsenal fan who were all linked to him and they would reel off a dozen names and then say Moyes isn't good enough. All of a sudden he's now a terrific manager and United have struck gold appointing him. Spin. Spin. Spin.

Hysterical the levels of propaganda. Makes North Korea look like Wikileaks ffs.
Yep. Fully agree.

Do you agree Pidge?
If we were some small club with no worldwide interest but were knocking on the door and threatening United, yes I would. We're not though, we are huge and growing worldwide on a daily basis. Sky are about making money, right? If that's the case then why make money off one club when you can make money off 2 clubs, 1 that is growing on said daily basis and is big news all over the place? Surely that would make sense than focusing on just one club?<br /><br />-- Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:33 pm --<br /><br />
SWP's back said:
Pigeonho said:
de niro said:
this. its the most mind boggling thing on this forum. there are even some "blues" that can't see it.

as fucking if.
So people who can't see it aren't proper blues then, is what you're implying?
Not at all, the majority of reds see it as well.

I think it makes you naive or ignorant or a combination of the two or maybe you are just so entrenched in your view that whilst you can see it goes on, you would never admit to it as it doesn't fit your "forum persona".
FFS mate, really?!
 
Pellers press confernce

Pigeonho said:
SWP's back said:
NipHolmes said:
Again the best seller analogy can be used.

If you're selling an item do you
a) concentrate on the positives
b) talk about the negatives

United can do no wrong. If they spend it's because they can due to their massive revenue streams. If they lose a match, it's no problem because their winning mentality will help them prevail. If they win it's because they're great. If they are given a dodgy penalty it's part if the game and it evens itself out. If they are not given a penalty then try referees too slow or had an off day (couldn't handle the pressure, let the fans make his decision for him etc). If they sign a player it's because he's part of a masterplan and will become great, if they miss on a player it's because of money.

Cut a long story short, spin is their main attribute. Everything is sugarcoated red. David Moyes rapid rise in stock is the epitome of it. Laudrup and Martinez both have won more than him and both were equally as hamstrung financially. Moyes was a steady eddie and seen as a good manager but not great. Ask any United, Chelsea and Arsenal fan who were all linked to him and they would reel off a dozen names and then say Moyes isn't good enough. All of a sudden he's now a terrific manager and United have struck gold appointing him. Spin. Spin. Spin.

Hysterical the levels of propaganda. Makes North Korea look like Wikileaks ffs.
Yep. Fully agree.

Do you agree Pidge?
If we were some small club with no worldwide interest but were knocking on the door and threatening United, yes I would. We're not though, we are huge and growing worldwide on a daily basis. Sky are about making money, right? If that's the case then why make money off one club when you can make money off 2 clubs, 1 that is growing on said daily basis and is big news all over the place? Surely that would make sense than focusing on just one club?

-- Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:33 pm --

SWP's back said:
Pigeonho said:
So people who can't see it aren't proper blues then, is what you're implying?
Not at all, the majority of reds see it as well.

I think it makes you naive or ignorant or a combination of the two or maybe you are just so entrenched in your view that whilst you can see it goes on, you would never admit to it as it doesn't fit your "forum persona".
FFS mate, really?!
Sky's not going to be making money off a short presser aired only in the UK.
 
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Questions for Pidge (yes or no answers please)

A) Do you think the media try to portray united in a positive light?

B)
Do you think the media try to portray City in a negative light?
 
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Pelli being compared to Wenger on SSN - after that conference that's a fair comparison. Let's hope that Pelli can build up a legacy as a long-term success as Wenger has at Arsenal.
 
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You could see from their body language that they were feeling a bit awkward and/or nervous, but both came across well. Should have given them a fan or switched on the AC though!

It's very hard not to like Pellegrini, he's very polite and charming, but didn't let them walk over him. Looks like he has found a good balance there.
 
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Listen, it was intentionally a low key press conference, maybe to give Pellers a chance to cut his teeth.

That's maybe the reason why it was held on a trestle table in a marquee at the training ground. Not like the Moyes one where he was suited up, sitting high on a podium with all the worlds media assembled, with measured and rehearsed answers to every question.

Today was more like a "Hiya lads, please go easy on me type of deal."

The club know exactly what they are doing. I wouldn't be surprised if Sky were told not to bother this time.
 
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Pigeonho said:
FFS mate, really?!
You do revel in being the anti-agenda king.

You seriously don't think that Utd get favorable reporting?
 
Re: Pellers press confernce

Pigeonho said:
SWP's back said:
NipHolmes said:
Again the best seller analogy can be used.

If you're selling an item do you
a) concentrate on the positives
b) talk about the negatives

United can do no wrong. If they spend it's because they can due to their massive revenue streams. If they lose a match, it's no problem because their winning mentality will help them prevail. If they win it's because they're great. If they are given a dodgy penalty it's part if the game and it evens itself out. If they are not given a penalty then try referees too slow or had an off day (couldn't handle the pressure, let the fans make his decision for him etc). If they sign a player it's because he's part of a masterplan and will become great, if they miss on a player it's because of money.

Cut a long story short, spin is their main attribute. Everything is sugarcoated red. David Moyes rapid rise in stock is the epitome of it. Laudrup and Martinez both have won more than him and both were equally as hamstrung financially. Moyes was a steady eddie and seen as a good manager but not great. Ask any United, Chelsea and Arsenal fan who were all linked to him and they would reel off a dozen names and then say Moyes isn't good enough. All of a sudden he's now a terrific manager and United have struck gold appointing him. Spin. Spin. Spin.

Hysterical the levels of propaganda. Makes North Korea look like Wikileaks ffs.
Yep. Fully agree.

Do you agree Pidge?
If we were some small club with no worldwide interest but were knocking on the door and threatening United, yes I would. We're not though, we are huge and growing worldwide on a daily basis. Sky are about making money, right? If that's the case then why make money off one club when you can make money off 2 clubs, 1 that is growing on said daily basis and is big news all over the place? Surely that would make sense than focusing on just one club?

-- Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:33 pm --

SWP's back said:
Pigeonho said:
So people who can't see it aren't proper blues then, is what you're implying?
Not at all, the majority of reds see it as well.

I think it makes you naive or ignorant or a combination of the two or maybe you are just so entrenched in your view that whilst you can see it goes on, you would never admit to it as it doesn't fit your "forum persona".
FFS mate, really?!

You fail to understand the Good versus Evil tried and tested storyline. Superman has Lex Luther, United have City. We are the underdogs and normally everyone lives an underdog but Sky have created a good v bad kind of war.

In boxing Pacquiao was seen as the good and Mayweather the bad. The reason for this is because it creates a bigger story. It makes things more interesting. At the end of the day it's just football and both teams are in the north west of England. However it's built to be more than that. It's seen as good v bad, a king being dethroned by a challenger etc.

Sky can't deny us but they can shape our profile for the masses, or at least attempt to.

May I suggest a mod trim this thread and create a thread. We are destroying this topic but it's a good debate we can continue. Done to death I know but interesting never the less.
 

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