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People 'can't wait for ID cards'
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dannybcity
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[/quote][/quote]bluealf said:Mat I remember stood in Albert Square in the pissing rain with my wife & daughter oppoisng the war in Iraq..and it changed FUCK ALL
Good or another race of people would have been wiped out, do you people not understand this ?
I dont like Blair or Dubya either but Saddam was killing a race of people like hitler tried to do, my mind boggles at your sort that walk up and down shouting things with your placards held up high.
I was in Edinburgh at the time and they where doing the same and every last man and woman dressed like they where terrorists with their iraqi scarves up over their faces marching up and down, pushing people out of the way, i was there with my 4 kids and i had to explain that disgrace to them.
My wife is a jew and her family suffered at the hands of that killer, hitler, if she where a kurd you explain the diference to me ?[/quote]
I have been on an anti war march before and I have to agree with you on the behaviour of certain fractions that go on them. I don't think everyone is there for the same reasons, however my reasons for opposing the Iraq war have nothing to do with any kind of sympathey with Hussain but the hypocrisy of it all. Hussain was wrong for killing the Kurds for rebelling against the state so how is our behaviour any different? Secondly this was not the reason given for the invasion given anyway, there was no WMD's and no link to 9/11. We behaved like world police and dragged our service man and women, not to mention the Iraq civilians into a very dangerous situation, unsettled the region and generally caused choas so Dubya could finish off the job his daddy had failed to do.
[/quote]dannybcity said:bluealf said:Mat I remember stood in Albert Square in the pissing rain with my wife & daughter oppoisng the war in Iraq..and it changed FUCK ALL
Good or another race of people would have been wiped out, do you people not understand this ?
I dont like Blair or Dubya either but Saddam was killing a race of people like hitler tried to do, my mind boggles at your sort that walk up and down shouting things with your placards held up high.
I was in Edinburgh at the time and they where doing the same and every last man and woman dressed like they where terrorists with their iraqi scarves up over their faces marching up and down, pushing people out of the way, i was there with my 4 kids and i had to explain that disgrace to them.
My wife is a jew and her family suffered at the hands of that killer, hitler, if she where a kurd you explain the diference to me ?[/quote]
I have been on an anti war march before and I have to agree with you on the behaviour of certain fractions that go on them. I don't think everyone is there for the same reasons, however my reasons for opposing the Iraq war have nothing to do with any kind of sympathey with Hussain but the hypocrisy of it all. Hussain was wrong for killing the Kurds for rebelling against the state so how is our behaviour any different? Secondly this was not the reason given for the invasion given anyway, there was no WMD's and no link to 9/11. We behaved like world police and dragged our service man and women, not to mention the Iraq civilians into a very dangerous situation, unsettled the region and generally caused choas so Dubya could finish off the job his daddy had failed to do.[/quote]
Simple the war against Iraq was so wrong on so many levels and B liar took us into that shit!
ID cards my arse.
This police state of ours is getting out of hand.
Where is it going to end?
Rise up, fellow Britons, and say NOOOOOOOOOO.
Lets have a revolution. Kill the civil servants. Quash the Quangos. Let the Queen piss in a bucket. Who are the people who want this crap, and have we elected them?
Why are all these laws coming into force?
The state is everything and it's people are nothing.
It makes me mad, thinking about it.
This police state of ours is getting out of hand.
Where is it going to end?
Rise up, fellow Britons, and say NOOOOOOOOOO.
Lets have a revolution. Kill the civil servants. Quash the Quangos. Let the Queen piss in a bucket. Who are the people who want this crap, and have we elected them?
Why are all these laws coming into force?
The state is everything and it's people are nothing.
It makes me mad, thinking about it.
Fowlers Penalty Miss said:ID cards my arse.
This police state of ours is getting out of hand.
Where is it going to end?
Rise up, fellow Britons, and say NOOOOOOOOOO.
Lets have a revolution. Kill the civil servants. Quash the Quangos. Let the Queen piss in a bucket. Who are the people who want this crap, and have we elected them?
Why are all these laws coming into force?
The state is everything and it's people are nothing.
It makes me mad, thinking about it.
Fukin great post RISE UP Yes...Let the Queen piss in a bucket. love it!
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I don't really have a problem with carrying an ID card per se. I've got nothing to hide, so why should I? My major objection to it is the vast amount of money it's going to cost. Now that is fcuking obscene.
TheMightyQuinn
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If we had ID cards would Bin Laden either exist or be caught?
dannybcity
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Cheesy said:I don't really have a problem with carrying an ID card per se. I've got nothing to hide, so why should I? My major objection to it is the vast amount of money it's going to cost. Now that is fcuking obscene.
Apply the same principle if the police wanted to search your bedroom.
preston_blue85
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Well the last terrorist were from Leeds and London, so tell me how this is going to stop terrorism.
TheMightyQuinn
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preston_blue85 said:Well the last terrorist were from Leeds and London, so tell me how this is going to stop terrorism.
I think we should probably kill all muslims to ensure we eliminate terrorism. Also I'd like all gays to be killed as they spread aids, black people are all criminals too so get rid of them. I dont like women either so do away with them.
Funny thing is a few here will actually agree with me on those points.
mancmackem
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This is my contribution to a topic that interests me. Anything else, i will be called a fuckwit by somebody with how the thread has gone.
stonerblue
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I'm in such a rush to get my i.d. card i've already commissioned a forger to knock me one up. He managed to clone my passport in 4 minutes so he reckons the card will be no problem.
ElanJo
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Cheesy said:I don't really have a problem with carrying an ID card per se. I've got nothing to hide, so why should I? My major objection to it is the vast amount of money it's going to cost. Now that is fcuking obscene.
So, if the Government wanted to put camera's in your house, car and workplace, you'd be ok with that aswell?
After the ID card, the lack of the above, and a curfew, is practically all that separates us from 1984.
Can't wait myself. I''m gonna wack one off right onto the lens of every camera they install in my house :)
robspankthemonkey
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TheMightyQuinn said:If we had ID cards would Bin Laden either exist or be caught?
He'd be nicked straight away and given an ASBO if this government had out to do with it.
brass neck
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Strange to see unions not shouting against the I.D cards. You would of thought unions would be run by exactly the sort of people who would detest such an idea. Or are they run by money grabbing, privately educated, oxbridge educated new labour sycophants!!! And are as far removed from the idea of supporting the working man by funding the working mans party as is possible
If I was a union leader...I would be saying if you even think about bringing this idea in, all donations will be going to a real left wing party like Respect.
This will be Labours Poll Tax no matter how much G Brown tries to tell us he has saved the nation by letting banks have carte blanch, selling the nations gold reserves at the markets lowest point, raiding pension funds etc etc etc.....Maybe if he hadn't spent so much time with his mate Tony with his feet hanging out of George Dubyas anus we wouldnt have the terrorist issues he is using so much to rob us of our freedom.
As for Jacqui Smith
I wonder if there will be any technology in the I.D cards to stop students smoking splifs like she admitted to...Who would of ever imagined it... A home secretary admitting to doing drugs in there past....
Lets hope Shami Chacrabati does whats she's good at with this crazy idea and shows it for what it is with her eloquent use of English and manipulation of the sensible press!!!
If I was a union leader...I would be saying if you even think about bringing this idea in, all donations will be going to a real left wing party like Respect.
This will be Labours Poll Tax no matter how much G Brown tries to tell us he has saved the nation by letting banks have carte blanch, selling the nations gold reserves at the markets lowest point, raiding pension funds etc etc etc.....Maybe if he hadn't spent so much time with his mate Tony with his feet hanging out of George Dubyas anus we wouldnt have the terrorist issues he is using so much to rob us of our freedom.
As for Jacqui Smith
I wonder if there will be any technology in the I.D cards to stop students smoking splifs like she admitted to...Who would of ever imagined it... A home secretary admitting to doing drugs in there past....
Lets hope Shami Chacrabati does whats she's good at with this crazy idea and shows it for what it is with her eloquent use of English and manipulation of the sensible press!!!
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mat
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brass neck said:Strange to see unions not shouting against the I.D cards. You would of thought unions would be run by exactly the sort of people who would detest such an idea. Or are they run by money grabbing, privately educated, oxbridge educated new labour sycophants!!! And are as far removed from the idea of supporting the working man by funding the working mans party as is possible
If I was a union leader...I would be saying if you even think about bringing this idea in, all donations will be going to a real left wing party like Respect.
This will be Labours Poll Tax no matter how much G Brown tries to tell us he has saved the nation by letting banks have carte blanch, selling the nations gold reserves at the markets lowest point, raiding pension funds etc etc etc.....Maybe if he hadn't spent so much time with his mate Tony with his feet hanging out of George Dubyas anus we wouldnt have the terrorist issues he is using so much to rob us of our freedom.
As for Jacqui Smith
I wonder if there will be any technology in the I.D cards to stop students smoking splifs like she admitted to...Who would of ever imagined it... A home secretary admitting to doing drugs in there past....
Lets hope Shami Chacrabati does whats she's good at with this crazy idea and shows it for what it is with her eloquent use of English and manipulation of the sensible press!!!
We sent a motion from our branch raising our concerns, which was passed by our AGM to be sent to this years TUC who decided there wasn't anytime to debate it.
(Absolutely nothing to do with the government union UNITE getting it suppressed due to their sizable majority in the congress. But thats another story for another time.)
brass neck
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I got out of Unions the day Usdaw the only union allowed at Tesco (who I used to work for )announced themselves as working WITH Tesco, (or in the back pockets of Tesco) And immediately rubber stamped all the nasty stuff Tesco did like cutting overtime pay for new starters and cutting back on sick pay rights...Unions and workers rights are SO dead in Britain!!!mat said:brass neck said:Strange to see unions not shouting against the I.D cards. You would of thought unions would be run by exactly the sort of people who would detest such an idea. Or are they run by money grabbing, privately educated, oxbridge educated new labour sycophants!!! And are as far removed from the idea of supporting the working man by funding the working mans party as is possible
If I was a union leader...I would be saying if you even think about bringing this idea in, all donations will be going to a real left wing party like Respect.
This will be Labours Poll Tax no matter how much G Brown tries to tell us he has saved the nation by letting banks have carte blanch, selling the nations gold reserves at the markets lowest point, raiding pension funds etc etc etc.....Maybe if he hadn't spent so much time with his mate Tony with his feet hanging out of George Dubyas anus we wouldnt have the terrorist issues he is using so much to rob us of our freedom.
As for Jacqui Smith
I wonder if there will be any technology in the I.D cards to stop students smoking splifs like she admitted to...Who would of ever imagined it... A home secretary admitting to doing drugs in there past....
Lets hope Shami Chacrabati does whats she's good at with this crazy idea and shows it for what it is with her eloquent use of English and manipulation of the sensible press!!!
We sent a motion from our branch raising our concerns, which was passed by our AGM to be sent to this years TUC who decided there wasn't anytime to debate it.
(Absolutely nothing to do with the government union UNITE getting it suppressed due to their sizable majority in the congress. But thats another story for another time.)
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mat
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A lot of Unions go in for "Partnership deals", which as you say means the employer can do what they like and the union goes along with it. UNITE has that same policy where full time officials with no experience dictate to people what they are getting. Im an activist with the RMT which still works from the bottom up that's why as a union we constantly get slagged off by the media for standing up for our members.
Where i work the company are trying to run roughshod over our T&C's and have all of a sudden invited UNITE in to poach members (Poaching from another TU not exactly fraternal is it?). I'd rather fight for my T&C's and lose than give it away for fuck all.
Where i work the company are trying to run roughshod over our T&C's and have all of a sudden invited UNITE in to poach members (Poaching from another TU not exactly fraternal is it?). I'd rather fight for my T&C's and lose than give it away for fuck all.