Pep Guardiola - 2022/23

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Damanino said:
big trouble in the dressing room imo, either with personal issues or Pep insisting on tactical changes which the players dont believe in or both.

the issues we had like certain key players kept on bench after WC, than body language issues at training, than Cancelo's urgent transfer out of the blue, then he keeps trying to prove a point with Rico Lewis, maybe to Txiki about squad strength, also a message about completely not using Phillips and Gomez two of his summer transfers.

we brought in Gomez as we missed out on Cucurella and (was arrogant enough to tell Zinchenko he is gonna have even less game time due to cucurella ) & to offset pressure on Cancelo who was our main LB last season.
Zinchenko gone, Cancelo gone, Cucurella never arrived and Gomez hardly gets a chance to look in. he may well be not good enough or not up to speed. by the look of it not even for a limited rotational role.

dont get me started on Phillips.
I bet if Rodri would get a 2 months injury Phillips would still be sitting on the bench most of that 2 months.
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There's no doubt some key players think Pep's newer tactics are shit. I think I know why they may think that. Because they are!
 
wattle said:
4 titles in 5 seasons. Still 2nd and still favourites with the bookies to win it. Still in the FA cup with a favourable draw and still in the Chumps league after topping our group. Plus we're top scorers in the division and have the highest individual scorer. Self entitles spoilt brats on here
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Blah, blah, blah, blah...keep fiddling while Rome burns...
 
wolviedinho said:
The only concern I have is that we are incapable of passing the ball into Haaland. We have good players and a world class manager. The season is done imo. We will hang on for a while but that zip/drive is not on show this season. When Kev was passing the ball to Haaland it all seemed so easy. Now Kev is off form and the rest are pants. On the face of it poor recruitment for what ever reason is a major factor. Last season our squad was not good enough and we just about got the job done. This season the old reliable players like Kev have gone messing. Only 1 player has stepped up with goals and that is Haaland.

Solution: buy better players and stop worrying about the letter writing cunts. Hard balancing act. One we must put right in the summer.

Pep can only do so much. He cant create with the wrong tools. Clear out needed. Far too many passengers not weighing in with goals or assists. The club needs to give him better players and not have him creating miracles each season.

Oh, stop buying English players. Productivity and quality has fallen as a result of our recruitment. We have dropped the ball big time in this regard. Can’t creative with out a bit of magic. Foden was our only hope and he is having a funny season.
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So Pep's had to create miracles to win with this squad? Seriously? That's a load of nonsense. LMFAO
 

Haaland to ‘divorce’ Man City as his ‘anger’ with Guardiola sees their relationship ‘crack’​

Date published: Sunday 5th February 2023 6:30 - Lewis Oldham
 
stablemcfc said:
We won’t get better than Pep.

We’ve been poor this season no doubt, but back him in the transfer window, get some bloody width, pace and fullbacks, offload those who don’t want to be here (Cancelo/Bernardo) and see how we get on next season.

If he gets the players in he wants, has a balanced squad and can’t get them singing to his tune next season like he has done previously, then I would start to question if the end is nigh.

But one bad season with our worst squad since season 1, after all the incredible ones and people think it’s time up? Not for me.
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You make it sound as though he is getting he best out of our current bunch,that he is picking the best 11 for the job in hand,that they are playing in their natural positions,that they are being allowed to play their natural game and that our approach is the right one for the individuals on the pitch.You make it sound like any new signings wont also have their attacking instincts nullified in favour of this possession with no end result bullshit.

The problem rests with Pep,and given what he came out with after the game yesterday.....despite it being glaringly obvious.....i hold little hope he is willing to abandon the shite he is serving up.
 
Here we go cracking up again.calm down people we win more than we lose these days like CTID
 
Can't help but feel the players are slowly losing faith in Pep which is a worrying sign. Vibes are well off, I think the players like us fans can see Pep is losing the plot with some of these formations and this awful style of play where we refuse to move the ball forward to Haaland. Erling will be the next one to lose it and you couldn't fault the man if he did. I can't believe how boring we have become - it says something when the dirty Rags play better football.

Pep whilst an absolutely world class manager - still #1 for me; he is no bigger than the club. He has to buck up his ideas. Hopefully in the summer, we can freshen the squad up and go again. Its like Pep has had a breakdown since losing to Madrid or something. He has lost his identity. Hopefully we can get the old Pep back.
 
wolviedinho said:
The only concern I have is that we are incapable of passing the ball into Haaland. We have good players and a world class manager. The season is done imo. We will hang on for a while but that zip/drive is not on show this season. When Kev was passing the ball to Haaland it all seemed so easy. Now Kev is off form and the rest are pants. On the face of it poor recruitment for what ever reason is a major factor. Last season our squad was not good enough and we just about got the job done. This season the old reliable players like Kev have gone messing. Only 1 player has stepped up with goals and that is Haaland.

Solution: buy better players and stop worrying about the letter writing cunts. Hard balancing act. One we must put right in the summer.

Pep can only do so much. He cant create with the wrong tools. Clear out needed. Far too many passengers not weighing in with goals or assists. The club needs to give him better players and not have him creating miracles each season.

Oh, stop buying English players. Productivity and quality has fallen as a result of our recruitment. We have dropped the ball big time in this regard. Can’t creative with out a bit of magic. Foden was our only hope and he is having a funny season.
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Not one player would have been signed without Pep agreeing, not one.
We probably havent got in some of the players he would have liked though.
I would like to think we will flex our financial muscles this summer and go all out for the players Pep wants and we need, we need a big clearout but im not so sure we will.
 
Pep and Klopp are failing this season due to pushing the players beyond their limits for several seasons now and then blaming them for not performing according to the expectations. The players are losing faith and the teams are losing ground.

Pep's plan to shake things up after the WC seems to be unsuccessful and is making the team worse. Even the best managers make big mistakes. Maybe we can save the season if Pep manages to come up with a better plan.

Think Pep allowed silly criticisms to get to him. Is it a coincidence he prefers to play with our least expensive players in defence, as if he wants to prove a point? Akanji, Rico and Ake cost under 60m together. The 60m players are on the bench or at Bayern now. Guess Pep would say he wants hungry and happy players. And he would be right in principle. But his treatment of the players who started the most games last season and were key cogs in our build up play has been unproductive.
 
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Gundogan's Moustache said:
For the first time he needs to be questioned.

Team selection: Suck it up and put the best players on the pitch.

Personal Favourites: Akanji. Nowhere near good enough I dont care if he smiles at you every morning. Every fan from any club would have raised eyebrows when seeing Dias and Laporte on the bench.

Mystery exclusions: De Bruyne & Foden. No words really.

Lack of in game changes & Stubbornness : Did we ever look like scoring today ?
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This isn’t the first time he’s needed to be questioned.

He was rightly questioned a lot in his first season and in the 2019-20 season and far more than now in the first half of the 2020-21 season where we were a fucking shambles (we were on course for a 57 point season as late as December that season!).

We have been much better this season than the start of the 2020-21 season. Okay, we went on a run of 18 wins in 19 games to end up winning the league that season and we definehely won’t be doing that this season. But we might actually finish with around the same amount of points this season as we did in winning the league that season.

We finished 19 points behind the title winners in 2019-20 on 81 points.
We won the league with 86 points the following season (not really that much of an improvement on the season before).
And we’re on course for an 82 point season this season.

They are quite good for ‘drop-off’ seasons. One of them we even ended up with the title.

All of those seasons were strange seasons n’all. 2019-20 was interrupted by a three month break (granted, by then we were already out of the title race), 2020-21 saw no fans in attendance and this season has seen a stupid World Cup interrupt the season.

We will not win the league every season. We won’t even play well every season. But if we can achieve 80+ points in ‘drop-off’ seasons, there’s not that much to complain about. Would it be better that we challenge right to the end and miss out on the title on the final day in our ‘drop-off’ seasons? I don’t know, the end result is the same either way - we end up without the title, so what’s the difference?

The concern I have is that I don’t see where this squad is going. I don’t think players we’re recruiting suit our style of play or suit playing with each other or are good enough. But we’ll have to see how we recruit this Summer to see if there’s a longer term plan for this.
 
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alexmcity said:
Pep and Klopp are failing this season due to pushing the players beyond their limits for several seasons now and then blaming them for not performing according to the expectations. The players are losing faith and the teams are losing ground.

Pep's plan to shake things up after the WC seems to be unsuccessful and is making the team worse. Even the best managers make big mistakes. Maybe we can save the season if Pep manages to come up with a better plan.

Think Pep allowed silly criticisms to get to him. Is it a coincidence he prefers to play with our least expensive players in defence, as if he wants to prove a point? Akanji, Rico and Ake cost under 60m together. The 60m players are on the bench or at Bayern now. Guess Pep would say he wants hungry and happy players. And he would be right in principle. But his treatment of the players who started the most games last season and were key cogs in our build up play has been unproductive.
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Not sure what the price of a transfer has to do with this situation.

Dias is now fit, why is he not getting minutes, because he cost 60m? Come on, this is a lot deeper.
 
CityDean said:
Can't help but feel the players are slowly losing faith in Pep which is a worrying sign. Vibes are well off, I think the players like us fans can see Pep is losing the plot with some of these formations and this awful style of play where we refuse to move the ball forward to Haaland. Erling will be the next one to lose it and you couldn't fault the man if he did. I can't believe how boring we have become - it says something when the dirty Rags play better football.

Pep whilst an absolutely world class manager - still #1 for me; he is no bigger than the club. He has to buck up his ideas. Hopefully in the summer, we can freshen the squad up and go again. Its like Pep has had a breakdown since losing to Madrid or something. He has lost his identity. Hopefully we can get the old Pep back.
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Vibes have been well off before.

Pep’s been with us for seven seasons and in four of those seasons we’ve been miles behind our three better seasons with vibes seemingly well off. Even though in one of those seasons we ended up winning the league!

2016-17: 3rd, 78 points; CL Ro16
2017-18: 1st, 100 points; CL ¼; EFL Cup w; Community Shield w
2018-19: 1st, 98 points; CL ¼; FA Cup w; EFL Cup w; Community Shield w
2019-20: 2nd, 81 points; CL ¼; EFL Cup w
2020-21: 1st, 86 points; CL final; EFL Cup w
2021-22: 1st, 93 points; CL ½

2022-23: currently 2nd, on course for an 82 point season, still in the CL and FA Cup. This season might not be anywhere near our worst under Pep.
 
Keeper! said:
Not sure what the price of a transfer has to do with this situation.

Dias is now fit, why is he not getting minutes, because he cost 60m? Come on, this is a lot deeper.
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Only if that’s what kind of mind your mind is. I don’t think there’s anything more deep than Dias not being fit enough to start yet and that 15 minute cameo the other week set him back a bit as he went off feeling his injury.
 
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