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Pep is saying he has realised how difficult it is on tricky pitches against long ball, or aerial football & now apreciates it more.

I'm saying Newport County was like walking through a children's playground compared to how it was when those players were playing that kind of football & they would scare our defenders to death.

Ah right, thanks.

The game has changed, I agree.

I would also assert that GUARDIOLA, himself, has and IS responsible, in part for this.
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And is responsible for picking players who should not be in the squad, never mind the team.
Gundoghan, Jesus, Zinchenko, Walker, Sterling, and more recently Otamendi.

Playing boys in a man's game also.




According to many posters.

JJ
 
And is responsible for picking players who should not be in the squad, never mind the team.
Gundoghan, Jesus, Zinchenko, Walker, Sterling, and more recently Otamendi.

Playing boys in a man's game also.




According to many posters.

JJ
Bring back Frank Clark. Or Stuart Pearce (and beanie, naturally). Or even Alan Ball. Though the smell might be an issue for some.
 
He has changed the game here I think, in a short time, more than anyone before him.

I think it will be interesting (say) ten years from now to look back and assess Pep's influence and achievements. I certainly hope the list of achievements will be impressive; whether he will have a lasting influence on the game is anyone's guess; although I hope City will continue to use some version of positional play.
 
I think it will be interesting (say) ten years from now to look back and assess Pep's influence and achievements. I certainly hope the list of achievements will be impressive; whether he will have a lasting influence on the game is anyone's guess; although I hope City will continue to use some version of positional play.

What I find fascinating is whether anyone can consistently do anything about it & whether Pep adapts further, as & when they try to.

It could of course be the case, that Pep loses his magic to motivate his players, in which case he'll just go, but if that isn't the case it would be really intriguing to see how others try to deal with Pep & hgow he tries to adapt to that.

We saw in his first season, various flaws emerge, such as Pep realising that he can't get away with Kolarov swanning around at cb, because we also have to defend, he's spent a fortune on big, fast, fullbacks & a big, quick, skillful cb when many thought he wouldn't buy one, he has Fernandinho as first name on the sheet, when many thought he would replace him with some Kroos style half arsed passer. He's got pace upfront, Aguero a mainstay, when many thought he would be out & maybe we'd play with no cf at all.

The Pep Bible, which many were quoting from his Barca days, has been rewritten in many aspects. We are not Barca, we are much tougher & of course have no Messi.

And he's still learning stuff, as he said at Newport.

I hope he decides to stick at it here.
 
Pep is saying he has realised how difficult it is on tricky pitches against long ball, or aerial football & now apreciates it more.

I'm saying Newport County was like walking through a children's playground compared to how it was when those players were playing that kind of football & they would scare our defenders to death.
I can remember when all amateur football was long ball rubbish.full backs would clear their lines by hoofing 60 yards .centre backs would be told "knock it long" forwards would leap and try and flick a header on..it was pretty grim,basic stuff...the top 4 divisions of the game werent much different on the whole..
There have been quite a few overseas players who have looked really out of place as they looked at the ball ping ponging to and fro over their heads...Deyna was one of them..
 
I thought this might be the appropriate thread to post this — this is a fairly good broad tactical analysis of our game against Chelsea which shows how Pep learned from our earlier match against them and made very effective tweaks to our system to exploit theirs.

 
I can remember when all amateur football was long ball rubbish.full backs would clear their lines by hoofing 60 yards .centre backs would be told "knock it long" forwards would leap and try and flick a header on..it was pretty grim,basic stuff...the top 4 divisions of the game werent much different on the whole..
There have been quite a few overseas players who have looked really out of place as they looked at the ball ping ponging to and fro over their heads...Deyna was one of them..

Haha, yes.
 
Pep's former teammate Sonny Anderson was interviewed 2 days ago in the build-up to Lyon-Barca game (as he played for both).
Hilarious stuff:

"I think he [Guardiola] did not learn anything from Van Gaal. Pep already had everything as a player to become the great coach he is. For me, it was Van Gaal who learned from Pep to play the Barcelona game.

Van Gaal liked the long passes and Guardiola the short ones, and from these conversations the style we practised during those years was defined.

Van Gaal gave certain instructions and then, within the field, Pep directed to the team based on how Barcelona had to do it by style and history. It was Guardiola who taught Van Gaal how the team had to play."
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/gua...an-gaal-it-was-the/1hvzhlbd33ljk1rk9kuboah60n
 
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Bring back Frank Clark. Or Stuart Pearce (and beanie, naturally). Or even Alan Ball. Though the smell might be an issue for some.
Al*n B*ll is dead. If we ever discover how to bring someone back to life I'd be all for bringing him back though.




Then we can hang the ****.
 
Fucking parasitic journalists; they never stop.

Good response form Pep, though.

Pep Guardiola on the quadruple: "You [the media] are trying to sell some illusion. How many times has an English team won four titles? Don’t put that pressure on our shoulders - we don’t deserve it."

"Look at the legacy Sir Alex Ferguson left - incredible - but he never did it."
 
One tactical element I thought was impressive was how our front three pressed. They were constantly working in unison and closing down Chelsea's defenders and keeper but never TOO aggressively.

A big element of Sarri style teams is to lull pressers into really going at them. Then they ping it around them, zip the ball into the midfield and charge at the defence. What our front three (and occasionally midfield two behind too) did really well was to block off the passing lanes and more importantly slow them down. I didn't really notice it until Sané came on and our forward press diminished a little, as that was when Chelsea were repeatedly playing it to their midfield runners without any issue.

That was a big reason why Chelsea never could build to much going forwards, so well done Pep, Sterling, Aguero and Bernardo.
 
One tactical element I thought was impressive was how our front three pressed. They were constantly working in unison and closing down Chelsea's defenders and keeper but never TOO aggressively.

A big element of Sarri style teams is to lull pressers into really going at them. Then they ping it around them, zip the ball into the midfield and charge at the defence. What our front three (and occasionally midfield two behind too) did really well was to block off the passing lanes and more importantly slow them down. I didn't really notice it until Sané came on and our forward press diminished a little, as that was when Chelsea were repeatedly playing it to their midfield runners without any issue.

That was a big reason why Chelsea never could build to much going forwards, so well done Pep, Sterling, Aguero and Bernardo.

Good analysis that. How City press is interesting. They almost look at times as if it is an after thought but I think they must give players enough room in certain areas to encourage them to play from the back and then go for the press.
 
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