Pep Guardiola

[Chippy_boy]

And I agree with Billy about the £37m. There's no way ADUG have to write a straight cheque for £37m. You asked why wouldn't Mancini have insisted on such a contract? Because he wouldn't have got it had he insisted. He got the best deal on offer I am sure.

 

[Anonymous]

And I agree with Billy about the £37m. There's no way ADUG have to write a straight cheque for £37m. You asked why wouldn't Mancini have insisted on such a contract? Because he wouldn't have got it had he insisted. He got the best deal on offer I am sure.

Chelsea just continued to pay AVB until he got another job. I'm sure in theory Mancini could sit on his arse for a few years and collect a pay cheque off City like he did with Inter Milan, but I suspect he'd walk into a job like Monaco, Anzi, etc instead.

Anyone who says that Mancini can't be sacked because of FFP doesn't really understand how contracts at that level work. City would never negotiate themselves into a deal whereby a manager could fail and still expect a massive pay off.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

And I agree with Billy about the £37m. There's no way ADUG have to write a straight cheque for £37m. You asked why wouldn't Mancini have insisted on such a contract? Because he wouldn't have got it had he insisted. He got the best deal on offer I am sure.

There was a story leaked to the press about a two way 2 year break clause in the contract.

Also, managers always do a deal with regards to these things. If he were to go, and it's a big if of course, you might be looking at £10m.

Less money than we lose by going out of the Champions League.<br /><br />-- Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:04 pm --<br /><br />

Billy - All opinions of course but your living in a dreamland if you think Mancini did not sign a rock solid contract. He would have gone elsewhere if it wasn't - he is a very intelligent, articulate and most importantly hard headed man.

No offence, fella, but Billy's streets ahead of you on this issue.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Definitely not unsackable - but if we continue to do well in the Prem it will be very unlikely.

 

[Petetheblu]

Can't wait for him to come, those beer ques are ridiculous under Mancini. You can wait upto ten minutes to get served, I doubt pep would allow this!!!

 

[BlueAnorak]

Chelsea just continued to pay AVB until he got another job. I'm sure in theory Mancini could sit on his arse for a few years and collect a pay cheque off City like he did with Inter Milan, but I suspect he'd walk into a job like Monaco, Anzi, etc instead.

Highly probable - but it would still be money that isn't going into the team.
Aside from Mancini and the club, no one knows the exact contract terms but the fact he could have gone elsewhere means they won't be too unfavourable to Mancini.

I also know for a fact that the club do not want another Hughes situation in the press so I'm pretty sure nothing will happen this season. My guess is that Mancini will leave at the earliest in the summer of 2016.

Let's see who is right.

 

[adrianr]

Billy - All opinions of course but your living in a dreamland if you think Mancini did not sign a rock solid contract. He would have gone elsewhere if it wasn't - he is a very intelligent, articulate and most importantly hard headed man.

There's no reason the contract had to be rock solid, it simply had to be better than the next best on offer. Why turn down the best contract on offer, even with caveats? Especially if that contract is at the team he's already at, settled in, a house, etc.

 

[Anonymous]

Highly probable - but it would still be money that isn't going into the team.

Doesn't matter. You said one page ago that it would cost City 37 million to sack Mancini which is a manifest nonsense. I've just pointed out why. Whatever peanuts they do pay him (in comparison to the 37 million quoted) will not affect FFPR or our transfer strategy in any way shape or form.

Aside from Mancini and the club, no one knows the exact contract terms but the fact he could have gone elsewhere means they won't be too unfavourable to Mancini.

I'm not sure what that means. I contract is generally an agreement made between two parties. They both need to be happy, as I'm sure they were with Mancini's contract.

I also know for a fact that the club do not want another Hughes situation in the press so I'm pretty sure nothing will happen this season. My guess is that Mancini will leave at the earliest in the summer of 2016.

IF City were to sack Mancini mid season and appoint Guardiola they'd get little or no stick from the media. Mancini's burned enough bridges that there isn't going to be the outpouring of grief there was for Hughes.

 

[Petetheblu]

Shhhhh!!..........Everyone just ignore Billy....

 

[Chippy_boy]

IF City were to sack Mancini mid season and appoint Guardiola they'd get little or no stick from the media. Mancini's burned enough bridges that there isn't going to be the outpouring of grief there was for Hughes.

This is true. Hughes was part of the establishment, an English manager, one of the luvvies untouchable by Hansen and his cronies. Sacking him was a heinous sin in the eyes of the media. Moyes would invoke similar outrage if he was sacked. No such love is lost on Mancini.

 

[Anonymous]

IF City were to sack Mancini mid season and appoint Guardiola they'd get little or no stick from the media. Mancini's burned enough bridges that there isn't going to be the outpouring of grief there was for Hughes.

This is true. Hughes was part of the establishment, an English manager, one of the luvvies untouchable by Hansen and his cronies. Sacking him was a heinous sin in the eyes of the media. Moyes would invoke similar outrage if he was sacked. No such love is lost on Mancini.

Be the same as when Ranieri got the sack at Chelsea. There'd be thirty seconds of "ooh the owners are trigger happy" followed by umpteen editorials about Pep and the inevitable links to Messi. They won't be arsed about Mancini and they certainly won't feel he's been hard done by.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

IF City were to sack Mancini mid season and appoint Guardiola they'd get little or no stick from the media. Mancini's burned enough bridges that there isn't going to be the outpouring of grief there was for Hughes.

This is true. Hughes was part of the establishment, an English manager, one of the luvvies untouchable by Hansen and his cronies. Sacking him was a heinous sin in the eyes of the media. Moyes would invoke similar outrage if he was sacked. No such love is lost on Mancini.

I'm not sure about that. I think the overriding narrative would be about trigger happy brutal Arabs and the fact that Mancini broke our trophy duck. The media like to give him shit, but they'd get their pound of flesh, and sales, taking that approach.

As always, it would be forgotten in a fortnight.

 

[crystal_mais]

I think people need to put their loyalty to one side here.

The contract took some time to agree. I guarantee there will be some caveats and conditions which have been included into the terms. Ours owners are shrewd business people.

Mancini has delivered to targets that had been set for him. I feel his record in Europe and some of his digs at players and staff (Marwood) may have tarnished him slightly, the question is if the owners have the confidence to take us to the next phase.

From a commercial perspective, City need to progress in Europe. They are trying to raise the clubs brand image. It would have pained them to see both Malaga & PSG through this year. Feel sorry for Mancini as the draw has killed us both years.

I still think he should be given the rest of this season and maybe the next. I feel both Klopp & Mourinho are better options than Pep, thats my opinion

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I think people need to put their loyalty to one side here.

The contract took some time to agree. I guarantee there will be some caveats and conditions which have been included into the terms. Ours owners are shrewd business people.

Mancini has delivered to targets that had been set for him. I feel his record in Europe and some of his digs at players and staff (Marwood) may have tarnished him slightly, the question is if the owners have the confidence to take us to the next phase.

From a commercial perspective, City need to progress in Europe. They are trying to raise the clubs brand image. It would have pained them to see both Malaga & PSG through this year. Feel sorry for Mancini as the draw has killed us both years.

I still think he should be given the rest of this season and maybe the next. I feel both Klopp & Mourinho are better options than Pep, thats my opinion

Good, succinct and realistic post that.

 

[robbieh]

Mancini for Hughes was a complete no brainer whatever the little britishers thought. One had a pretty impressive CV, the like of which no previous manager bar Kendall and Mercer could come close to. The other despite what he and his supporters suggest is completely clueless, both in terms of tactics and psychology, his own as well as his players.

When it comes to Mancini and Guardiola it is not so clear cut. Mancini has now won league titles in two countries. This tends to separate the men from the boys. Guardiola has given us some sublime football based on three players the like of which we will wait a long time to see again.

There are two questions here. Is Roberto capable of winning us the CL? And is Pep capable of recreating the somewhat unique set of circumstances at Barca, in another club, in another league?

For me the jury is out on both. What I do know is that Mancini is quite capable of delivering sustained success in the EPL.

So on the basis of this I would not swap him for Guardiola. There is probably only one cast iron guarantee in world football management but does Mourinho want to come to us and how long would he stay.

 

[Chippy_boy]

I think people need to put their loyalty to one side here.

The contract took some time to agree. I guarantee there will be some caveats and conditions which have been included into the terms. Ours owners are shrewd business people.

Mancini has delivered to targets that had been set for him. I feel his record in Europe and some of his digs at players and staff (Marwood) may have tarnished him slightly, the question is if the owners have the confidence to take us to the next phase.

From a commercial perspective, City need to progress in Europe. They are trying to raise the clubs brand image. It would have pained them to see both Malaga & PSG through this year. Feel sorry for Mancini as the draw has killed us both years.

I still think he should be given the rest of this season and maybe the next. I feel both Klopp & Mourinho are better options than Pep, thats my opinion

Agree with all of the above.

-- Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:56 pm --

Mancini for Hughes was a complete no brainer whatever the little britishers thought. One had a pretty impressive CV, the like of which no previous manager bar Kendall and Mercer could come close to. The other despite what he and his supporters suggest is completely clueless, both in terms of tactics and psychology, his own as well as his players.

When it comes to Mancini and Guardiola it is not so clear cut. Mancini has now won league titles in two countries. This tends to separate the men from the boys. Guardiola has given us some sublime football based on three players the like of which we will wait a long time to see again.

There are two questions here. Is Roberto capable of winning us the CL? And is Pep capable of recreating the somewhat unique set of circumstances at Barca, in another club, in another league?

For me the jury is out on both. What I do know is that Mancini is quite capable of delivering sustained success in the EPL.

So on the basis of this I would not swap him for Guardiola. There is probably only one cast iron guarantee in world football management but does Mourinho want to come to us and how long would he stay.

Agree with all of that as well.

 

[adrianr]

I think people need to put their loyalty to one side here.

The contract took some time to agree. I guarantee there will be some caveats and conditions which have been included into the terms. Ours owners are shrewd business people.

Mancini has delivered to targets that had been set for him. I feel his record in Europe and some of his digs at players and staff (Marwood) may have tarnished him slightly, the question is if the owners have the confidence to take us to the next phase.

From a commercial perspective, City need to progress in Europe. They are trying to raise the clubs brand image. It would have pained them to see both Malaga & PSG through this year. Feel sorry for Mancini as the draw has killed us both years.

I still think he should be given the rest of this season and maybe the next. I feel both Klopp & Mourinho are better options than Pep, thats my opinion

Agree with all of the above.

-- Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:56 pm --

Mancini for Hughes was a complete no brainer whatever the little britishers thought. One had a pretty impressive CV, the like of which no previous manager bar Kendall and Mercer could come close to. The other despite what he and his supporters suggest is completely clueless, both in terms of tactics and psychology, his own as well as his players.

When it comes to Mancini and Guardiola it is not so clear cut. Mancini has now won league titles in two countries. This tends to separate the men from the boys. Guardiola has given us some sublime football based on three players the like of which we will wait a long time to see again.

There are two questions here. Is Roberto capable of winning us the CL? And is Pep capable of recreating the somewhat unique set of circumstances at Barca, in another club, in another league?

For me the jury is out on both. What I do know is that Mancini is quite capable of delivering sustained success in the EPL.

So on the basis of this I would not swap him for Guardiola. There is probably only one cast iron guarantee in world football management but does Mourinho want to come to us and how long would he stay.

Agree with all of that as well.

I don't know if you noticed, but you're on the Internet. You'd do well not to be so agreeable around here ;)

 

[Chippy_boy]

I think people need to put their loyalty to one side here.

The contract took some time to agree. I guarantee there will be some caveats and conditions which have been included into the terms. Ours owners are shrewd business people.

Mancini has delivered to targets that had been set for him. I feel his record in Europe and some of his digs at players and staff (Marwood) may have tarnished him slightly, the question is if the owners have the confidence to take us to the next phase.

From a commercial perspective, City need to progress in Europe. They are trying to raise the clubs brand image. It would have pained them to see both Malaga & PSG through this year. Feel sorry for Mancini as the draw has killed us both years.

I still think he should be given the rest of this season and maybe the next. I feel both Klopp & Mourinho are better options than Pep, thats my opinion

Agree with all of the above.

-- Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:56 pm --

Mancini for Hughes was a complete no brainer whatever the little britishers thought. One had a pretty impressive CV, the like of which no previous manager bar Kendall and Mercer could come close to. The other despite what he and his supporters suggest is completely clueless, both in terms of tactics and psychology, his own as well as his players.

When it comes to Mancini and Guardiola it is not so clear cut. Mancini has now won league titles in two countries. This tends to separate the men from the boys. Guardiola has given us some sublime football based on three players the like of which we will wait a long time to see again.

There are two questions here. Is Roberto capable of winning us the CL? And is Pep capable of recreating the somewhat unique set of circumstances at Barca, in another club, in another league?

For me the jury is out on both. What I do know is that Mancini is quite capable of delivering sustained success in the EPL.

So on the basis of this I would not swap him for Guardiola. There is probably only one cast iron guarantee in world football management but does Mourinho want to come to us and how long would he stay.

Agree with all of that as well.

I don't know if you noticed, but you're on the Internet. You'd do well not to be so agreeable around here ;)

Oh fuck off ;-)

 

[robbieh]

Why don't we just get Vilanova? Seems to have improved Barca since last year.

Being a bit facetious but it does suggest that managing Barca at the moment is not that difficult. And where does that leave Guardiola. Was he brilliant or just an ordinary manager in charge of an extraordinary team?

Food for thought.

 

[Mancio]

Why don't we just get Vilanova? Seems to have improved Barca since last year.

Being a bit facetious but it does suggest that managing Barca at the moment is not that difficult. And where does that leave Guardiola. Was he brilliant or just an ordinary manager in charge of an extraordinary team?

Food for thought.

as much as i love mancini i also love guardiola in the bit and i think he is a fantastic person , so i'd be very happy if guardiola will be City's coach .

but the your is a very good question