Pep Guardiola

[Anonymous]

As always mate, your answer is very interesting. The point of the post is simple, as you point out. Pep Guardiola has brought a team through the academy and then onto the world stage. He has excelled in the way he has given that one team such dynamism and through what they have acheived over the course of his tenure. However, it does not go to prove anything other than he is able to create a youthful team from scratch, with already excellent players, and gel that team into a winning side.

Well yes. It proves nothing other than that very small fact. And when you say gel that team into a winning side, you mean create arguably the greatest club side ever. Small facts I know, but still, worth pointing out.

I do not believe that Guardiola is an average coach nor do I believe that he is a great coach. My personal opinion is that the jury is out and only time will tell whether he can cut it at another club.

It's an opinion, I'll give you that.

Next you'll be telling me he's bringing Messi with him.

Why would I do that?

Seriously I don't understand how anyone can have Mancini placed on such a high pedestal that they have to play down Guardiola's achievements and mock them. Strikes me as incredibly insecure.

 

[OB1]

Pep a upgrade on bob???

No way pedro

and please don't give me this 'he's won 2 champions leagues' bollocks - when he achieves the same success in another league i'll be converted. The whole ethos behind Barcelona is the infrastructure, Pep was part of that and all power to his achievements but I defy anyone to tell me that he is an upgrade!!!

Not that I'd ever want to defy you but, IMO, he would be an upgrade.

 

[OB1]

His record at Barcelona is irrefutable, my only concern is if he could achieve that kind of success elsewhere. I think he would be a gamble as strange as that sounds and a very expensive one probably.

All about opinions; I don't think Pep would be a big gamble and certainly no more of a gamble than appointing Mancini, an idea that I supported well before Hughes was sacked.

The thing is though mate, when talking about replacing Hughes with an upgrade the world is your lobster. When talking about replacing Mancini the options are a lot more limited.
You're right though, all about opinions.

I agree that the options for upgrading on Bobby are very limited: I like Bobby and I rate him highly but he is not the greatest manager of all-time or any time. City could do better if they decided that they needed to or Bobby decided to leave.

I don't know whether we will need to replace him in the summer or when we will need to replace him.

 

[Anonymous]

Abramovic apparently talking "...right now..." with Guardiola according to Jason Burton (?)

 

[AntiUnited]

Abramovic apparently talking "...right now..." with Guardiola according to Jason Burton (?)

Ye. I think the most shocking part is that Avram grant is in the shortlist HAHAHAHHAHA wtf

 

[Anonymous]

Abramovic apparently talking "...right now..." with Guardiola according to Jason Burton (?)

Ye. I think the most shocking part is that Avram grant is in the shortlist HAHAHAHHAHA wtf

Pissed meself laughing at that!

 

[waspish]

How can Guardiola possibly be an upgrade on Mancini, until he actually wins the Premier League ?

Sure if the two were both available two years ago, you would pick Guardiola 100 times over Mancini, but it's not two years ago it's now & Mancini has been working here, & won the Premier League.

The idea that achievement counts for nothing by comparison is absurd.

So true Mancini is proven in the premier league and turning around the fortunes of a club who hadn't won a thing in 35 years, the only question mark with Mancini is Europe but given time in convinced he will change that at city!

Appoint Pep and he loses a few games it will be he's not proven in the premier and it was Messi and co who were the difference not Pep

 

[The Future's Blue]

As always mate, your answer is very interesting. The point of the post is simple, as you point out. Pep Guardiola has brought a team through the academy and then onto the world stage. He has excelled in the way he has given that one team such dynamism and through what they have acheived over the course of his tenure. However, it does not go to prove anything other than he is able to create a youthful team from scratch, with already excellent players, and gel that team into a winning side.

Well yes. It proves nothing other than that very small fact. And when you say gel that team into a winning side, you mean create arguably the greatest club side ever. Small facts I know, but still, worth pointing out.

I do not believe that Guardiola is an average coach nor do I believe that he is a great coach. My personal opinion is that the jury is out and only time will tell whether he can cut it at another club.

It's an opinion, I'll give you that.

Next you'll be telling me he's bringing Messi with him.

Why would I do that?

Seriously I don't understand how anyone can have Mancini placed on such a high pedestal that they have to play down Guardiola's achievements and mock them. Strikes me as incredibly insecure.

There go you Mr BS, stating incorrect facts in order to either make good your debate or to belittle the poster.

Where have I placed Mancini on a pedestal and where have I mocked Guardiola? Go on BS, show me where?

What I asked is whether your statement that Guardiola is better Mancini was opinion or fact, nothing more, nothing less. However, you've tried to turn it into something it's not, all in order to somehow prove you are right.

I don't debate the BS Mr BS, I'll debate what's there. You, on the other hand, use underhanded tactics to try and prove a point and on this occassion, one which turned out to be, again, just your opinion. Now, who's the one who sounds insecure?

I like it though, keep it up mate. Your 'Preciousness' does make me chuckle ;-)

 

[Anonymous]

As always mate, your answer is very interesting. The point of the post is simple, as you point out. Pep Guardiola has brought a team through the academy and then onto the world stage. He has excelled in the way he has given that one team such dynamism and through what they have acheived over the course of his tenure. However, it does not go to prove anything other than he is able to create a youthful team from scratch, with already excellent players, and gel that team into a winning side.

Well yes. It proves nothing other than that very small fact. And when you say gel that team into a winning side, you mean create arguably the greatest club side ever. Small facts I know, but still, worth pointing out.

I do not believe that Guardiola is an average coach nor do I believe that he is a great coach. My personal opinion is that the jury is out and only time will tell whether he can cut it at another club.

It's an opinion, I'll give you that.

Next you'll be telling me he's bringing Messi with him.

Why would I do that?

Seriously I don't understand how anyone can have Mancini placed on such a high pedestal that they have to play down Guardiola's achievements and mock them. Strikes me as incredibly insecure.

There go you Mr BS, stating incorrect facts in order to either make good your debate or to belittle the poster.

Where have I placed Mancini on a pedestal and where have I mocked Guardiola? Go on BS, show me where?

What I asked is whether your statement that Guardiola is better Mancini was opinion or fact, nothing more, nothing less. However, you've tried to turn it into something it's not, all in order to somehow prove you are right.

I don't debate the BS Mr BS, I'll debate what's there. You, on the other hand, use underhanded tactics to try and prove a point and on this occassion, one which turned out to be, again, just your opinion. Now, who's the one who sounds insecure?

I like it though, keep it up mate. Your 'Preciousness' does make me chuckle ;-)

No problem mate. You keep asking moronic questions. I'll keep answering them as if you're a moron. All will be well with the world and Bluemoon will continue it's daily grind. :)

 

[The Future's Blue]

No problem mate. You keep asking moronic questions. I'll keep answering them as if you're a moron. All will be well with the world and Bluemoon will continue it's daily grind. :)

Sorry pal, I didn't mean to upset you. I'll leave it there precious.

 

[pee dubya]

Looks like Pep is waiting for us (so i assume there's been some kind of contact), Benitez gets the gig short term, if Mancini holds it together past the Summer, Benitez gets the boot, Pep goes to Chelsea and we stick with what we have.

Alernatively, we have a ready made excuse if we want Pep given we're probably about to exit the CL.

Or it's all already sorted, Mancini is off in the Summer and Pep is coming.

Fuck knows, either way, Chelsea would take Guardiola if they could so obviously at this moment he doesn't want it.

 

[Petetheblu]

Fuck Pep, Mancini's the man.

 

[Danamy]

Looks like Pep is waiting for us (so i assume there's been some kind of contact), Benitez gets the gig short term, if Mancini holds it together past the Summer, Benitez gets the boot, Pep goes to Chelsea and we stick with what we have.

Alernatively, we have a ready made excuse if we want Pep given we're probably about to exit the CL.

Or it's all already sorted, Mancini is off in the Summer and Pep is coming.

Fuck knows, either way, Chelsea would take Guardiola if they could so obviously at this moment he doesn't want it.

Benitez only being interim tells its own story, Chelsea are still waiting for Pep.

 

[Blue Haze]

Not sure why Pep would want Chelsea. RDM won the European Cup and didn't survive past 12 games. Mourinho couldn't even survive there.

Terrible move for him unless he's just looking for a payday, destined to be sacked.

 

[PaleBlue]

Fuck Pep, Mancini's the man.

Only this....

 

[Matt the Giant]

Looks like Pep is waiting for us (so i assume there's been some kind of contact), Benitez gets the gig short term, if Mancini holds it together past the Summer, Benitez gets the boot, Pep goes to Chelsea and we stick with what we have.

Alernatively, we have a ready made excuse if we want Pep given we're probably about to exit the CL.

Or it's all already sorted, Mancini is off in the Summer and Pep is coming.

Fuck knows, either way, Chelsea would take Guardiola if they could so obviously at this moment he doesn't want it.

Benitez only being interim tells its own story, Chelsea are still waiting for Pep.

You think they'll get him in the end?

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

well it comes down to whether just retaining the league is good enough for Mancini and whether the Barca guys will build for him and buy who he needs, or whether it isn't and if it isn't then they will need to start now(ready for January) building for a Pep transition in the summer.

Either way we need to make a choice now, if Sheikh Mansour is satisfied with a league and maybe a cup then we need to be backing Mancini with players now. If not then we need to be looking at foundations Pep would want to play his own way and that includes players.

If Mancini doesn't deliver the Prem I think he'll be gone anyway, but the board need to decide whether they have faith in him in Europe and if so they need to give him the players he wants as opposed to a business decision, which blatantly hasn't worked with the mediocrity we bought in the summer.

 

[Roll On City]

Rafa and Sammy Lee dream team? with high flying Nando the final piece of the jigsaw to Samford-Blues decline Cruise will be put in its place.......

Muhahahahahah

Will Rafa even make it till the end of the year? next joke please opss I mean manger

Never rule out interim superstar, Avram Grant to make surprise appearance

 

[Plain Speaking]

I cant see Pep going to Chelsea in summer. He cant respect the owner!
Also after last night I cant imagine Jose coming to City after the abuse he got. He previously said he will go where "he's wanted". Chelsea fans sing his name, Jose will go there or the rags.
It's quite possible we could see Jose at Chelsea, Pep at Arsenal and Moyes at United?
With such top managers around, winning the PL will be harder than ever!

 

[Newman Noggs]

I cant see Pep going to Chelsea in summer. He cant respect the owner!
Also after last night I cant imagine Jose coming to City after the abuse he got. He previously said he will go where "he's wanted". Chelsea fans sing his name, Jose will go there or the rags.
It's quite possible we could see Jose at Chelsea, Pep at Arsenal and Moyes at United?
With such top managers around, winning the PL will be harder than ever!

That would be a great scenario. Only one club can win the league and maybe one other can win the CL. If Chelsea or Arsenal won nothing where would they go then ?